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  • #16
    "Introductory" mesa models cost more or less as much as the einstein. Their top notch models, some sit way below the VH4 or herbert though. And they are not really scarce but of course not really cheap used either.



    Lowest prices for some mesas in my area and or/ebay



    1000 euros for a dual rec

    400 euros for a dc-3

    750 for a single rectoverb

    600 for mark III 60 watt, 900-1000 for a purple stripe

    about 1200 euros for a wooden (custom mesa) mark IV with flightcase, 900 pounds shipped for a mark IV with flightcase from england from the boogie board.

    600-700 for mesa f-series.



    But not as rare as diezel or soldano.

    Peavey XXX/JSX are far more rare for the last year or so and I can't ever seem to find a good enough deal on 6505s with shipping even from england due to the economy. As if they prefer not to sell.



    Marshall DSLs seem to go super low so do laneys
    "is this tone obtainable using the HD500 or Axe Fx? Overall, for convenience and volume control, should I buy the Axe Fx over actual tube amps? I don't plan on playing loud; just playing at home and recording on my Mac. Thanks man, you are awesome!


    short answer: no...

    long answer: no way..."

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    • #17
      "Introductory" mesa models cost more or less as much as the einstein. Their top notch models, some sit way below the VH4 or herbert though. And they are not really scarce but of course not really cheap used either.



      Lowest prices for some mesas in my area and or/ebay



      1000 euros for a dual rec

      400 euros for a dc-3

      750 for a single rectoverb

      600 for mark III 60 watt, 900-1000 for a purple stripe

      about 1200 euros for a wooden (custom mesa) mark IV with flightcase, 900 pounds shipped for a mark IV with flightcase from england from the boogie board.

      600-700 for mesa f-series.



      But not as rare as diezel or soldano.

      Peavey XXX/JSX are far more rare for the last year or so and I can't ever seem to find a good enough deal on 6505s with shipping even from england due to the economy. As if they prefer not to sell.



      Marshall DSLs seem to go super low so do laneys
      "is this tone obtainable using the HD500 or Axe Fx? Overall, for convenience and volume control, should I buy the Axe Fx over actual tube amps? I don't plan on playing loud; just playing at home and recording on my Mac. Thanks man, you are awesome!


      short answer: no...

      long answer: no way..."

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      • #18
        New DualRec is ~$3300 in Germany, Mark V is $3900 and a new Herbert is like $3700. I see a lot of Rectifiers around probably a bit more Diezels but I haven't come across a single Mesa Mark on Gigs or when jamming with ppl so from my point of view the Mark Series are like Diezels in the US

        FWIW the main advantage of playing a Diezel in (southern) Germany is the service. When I have a problem with my Herbert or am just unhappy with the way it sounds I can just give Peter a call drive to his place and have the amp taken care of by the guy who designed/built it and thats worth a lot to me...
        Framus Cobra, Diezel Herbert
        Diezel FL V30 4x12
        ESP M-II

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        • #19
          New DualRec is ~$3300 in Germany, Mark V is $3900 and a new Herbert is like $3700. I see a lot of Rectifiers around probably a bit more Diezels but I haven't come across a single Mesa Mark on Gigs or when jamming with ppl so from my point of view the Mark Series are like Diezels in the US

          FWIW the main advantage of playing a Diezel in (southern) Germany is the service. When I have a problem with my Herbert or am just unhappy with the way it sounds I can just give Peter a call drive to his place and have the amp taken care of by the guy who designed/built it and thats worth a lot to me...
          Framus Cobra, Diezel Herbert
          Diezel FL V30 4x12
          ESP M-II

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          • #20
            Just re checked prices, the herbert mk II is about 100 euros more expensive than a mesa triple rectifier which, is more or less similar to (both cold clippers high gainers) and the mesa came from the US and got customs and such!



            Plus, the diezels seem to hold their value better.



            I don't like their tone at all though, to be honest excluding the einstein. I'd take a mesa any day but I guess it is all about taste.
            "is this tone obtainable using the HD500 or Axe Fx? Overall, for convenience and volume control, should I buy the Axe Fx over actual tube amps? I don't plan on playing loud; just playing at home and recording on my Mac. Thanks man, you are awesome!


            short answer: no...

            long answer: no way..."

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            • #21
              Just re checked prices, the herbert mk II is about 100 euros more expensive than a mesa triple rectifier which, is more or less similar to (both cold clippers high gainers) and the mesa came from the US and got customs and such!



              Plus, the diezels seem to hold their value better.



              I don't like their tone at all though, to be honest excluding the einstein. I'd take a mesa any day but I guess it is all about taste.
              "is this tone obtainable using the HD500 or Axe Fx? Overall, for convenience and volume control, should I buy the Axe Fx over actual tube amps? I don't plan on playing loud; just playing at home and recording on my Mac. Thanks man, you are awesome!


              short answer: no...

              long answer: no way..."

              Comment


              • #22
                I paid EUR1200 ($1560) for my brand new Standard Recto 4x12", with grey & black grill. Expensive but superb.
                My band's page: www.defender-music.net

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                • #23
                  I paid EUR1200 ($1560) for my brand new Standard Recto 4x12", with grey & black grill. Expensive but superb.
                  My band's page: www.defender-music.net

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                  • #24
                    No.
                    Marshall 2466 Vintage Modern.
                    Cabs: Mesa/Boogie Vertical 2x12 (half-back)
                    Guitars: Ibanez UV777PBK, Ibanez K7 (with BKP Painkillers), Shecter 006 Deluxe, Jackson Kelly Standard, Ibanez SRX705, Takamine Classical, Taylor Acoustic.

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                    • #25
                      No.
                      Marshall 2466 Vintage Modern.
                      Cabs: Mesa/Boogie Vertical 2x12 (half-back)
                      Guitars: Ibanez UV777PBK, Ibanez K7 (with BKP Painkillers), Shecter 006 Deluxe, Jackson Kelly Standard, Ibanez SRX705, Takamine Classical, Taylor Acoustic.

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                      • #26






                        Quote Originally Posted by tech21man
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                        Lowest prices for some mesas in my area and or/ebay



                        1000 euros for a dual rec

                        400 euros for a dc-3

                        750 for a single rectoverb

                        600 for mark III 60 watt, 900-1000 for a purple stripe

                        about 1200 euros for a wooden (custom mesa) mark IV with flightcase, 900 pounds shipped for a mark IV with flightcase from england from the boogie board.

                        600-700 for mesa f-series.




                        In France, Benelux and Germany:



                        dual rec: 1700

                        single rectoverb: almost impossible to find.

                        mark III: 1500 (min)

                        wooden (custom mesa) mark IV: starts from 1900-2000

                        F-serie: 800



                        As an exception, there was a TA-15 for cheap in my area (650), but today I had offer for 900. Most probably the same amp, sold again by someone else.
                        "It's all sratched up, Zuzu"Your wattage may vary

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                        • #27






                          Quote Originally Posted by tech21man
                          View Post

                          Lowest prices for some mesas in my area and or/ebay



                          1000 euros for a dual rec

                          400 euros for a dc-3

                          750 for a single rectoverb

                          600 for mark III 60 watt, 900-1000 for a purple stripe

                          about 1200 euros for a wooden (custom mesa) mark IV with flightcase, 900 pounds shipped for a mark IV with flightcase from england from the boogie board.

                          600-700 for mesa f-series.




                          In France, Benelux and Germany:



                          dual rec: 1700

                          single rectoverb: almost impossible to find.

                          mark III: 1500 (min)

                          wooden (custom mesa) mark IV: starts from 1900-2000

                          F-serie: 800



                          As an exception, there was a TA-15 for cheap in my area (650), but today I had offer for 900. Most probably the same amp, sold again by someone else.
                          "It's all sratched up, Zuzu"Your wattage may vary

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                          • #28
                            The Europe largest music retailer's prices (in descending order):

                            http://www.thomann.de/de/cat.html?gf...taerker&oa=prd

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                            • #29
                              The Europe largest music retailer's prices (in descending order):

                              http://www.thomann.de/de/cat.html?gf...taerker&oa=prd

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                              • #30
                                Here (Poland) DR's and TR's are relatively inexpensive and popular, because there is a metric ****************ton of them on the used market (since EVERYONE has to own a DR at one point, and most people discover that's not really the sound they are looking for)



                                other mesa amps are quite expensive and rare, that's true.



                                diezels are super rare and super expensive
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                                Ltd Eclipse Deluxe EC-1000 WH / Schecter C1 Hellraiser WH / Schecter C7 Hellraiser BLK
                                Framus Cobra / Peavey XXX Combo / VHT Fat Bottom 4x12 / Engl Standard 4x12
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