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  • #16






    Quote Originally Posted by Filter500
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    All guitars, especially leads, should come down a bit. The mid content is mostly pushed by those guitars, so dropping the level a little should reduce the mid emphasis in the mix and add some space. I would use a touch of EQ at the mastering stage for the top and bottom end. None of the stuff I'm suggesting is complicated, so I think you should take it that way and just make these few simple tweaks without overthinking it. The playing/tracking is great. The HC site has made replying a pain.




    Thank you!



    I am always having problems with the guitar levels. I used to have them too soft in a mix and now I probably gone the other extreme.



    Right now I am listening to all 5 tracks/mixes for my EP, and I find it very hard to get the levels somewhat coherent, so that on all tracks the balance between the drums/bass/guitars/synth is about the same.....
    <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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    • #17






      Quote Originally Posted by Filter500
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      All guitars, especially leads, should come down a bit. The mid content is mostly pushed by those guitars, so dropping the level a little should reduce the mid emphasis in the mix and add some space. I would use a touch of EQ at the mastering stage for the top and bottom end. None of the stuff I'm suggesting is complicated, so I think you should take it that way and just make these few simple tweaks without overthinking it. The playing/tracking is great. The HC site has made replying a pain.




      Thank you!



      I am always having problems with the guitar levels. I used to have them too soft in a mix and now I probably gone the other extreme.



      Right now I am listening to all 5 tracks/mixes for my EP, and I find it very hard to get the levels somewhat coherent, so that on all tracks the balance between the drums/bass/guitars/synth is about the same.....
      <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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      • #18






        Quote Originally Posted by Santuzzo
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        Thanks!



        To add some atmosphere or room-quality, I just add some reverb on the master bu or some of the mastering reverb in Ozone? Or would it be better to maybe set up another reverb bus and send each track through it?

        I think I applied some mastering reverb in Ozone, but I went very light on it.




        Reading what Filter500 said above, I'd say try what's suggested there first. It may just be the slightly strident mids that's sucking the atmosphere out of the mix. Mids tend to come across louder to the human ear, and could be covering up what's already there in the rest of the mix making it sound like the guitars aren't a part of it.



        Reverb is such a tricky thing to balance I wouldn't want to make too strong a suggestion until I hear it on the monitors at home and not just on my crappy headphones.
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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by Santuzzo
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          Thanks!



          To add some atmosphere or room-quality, I just add some reverb on the master bu or some of the mastering reverb in Ozone? Or would it be better to maybe set up another reverb bus and send each track through it?

          I think I applied some mastering reverb in Ozone, but I went very light on it.




          Reading what Filter500 said above, I'd say try what's suggested there first. It may just be the slightly strident mids that's sucking the atmosphere out of the mix. Mids tend to come across louder to the human ear, and could be covering up what's already there in the rest of the mix making it sound like the guitars aren't a part of it.



          Reverb is such a tricky thing to balance I wouldn't want to make too strong a suggestion until I hear it on the monitors at home and not just on my crappy headphones.
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          • #20






            Quote Originally Posted by nightflameauto
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            Reading what Filter500 said above, I'd say try what's suggested there first. It may just be the slightly strident mids that's sucking the atmosphere out of the mix. Mids tend to come across louder to the human ear, and could be covering up what's already there in the rest of the mix making it sound like the guitars aren't a part of it.



            Reverb is such a tricky thing to balance I wouldn't want to make too strong a suggestion until I hear it on the monitors at home and not just on my crappy headphones.




            Yeah, I will put some more work into it. Today I did not get to do much, but hopefully during the weekend I will find some time to try improving this!
            <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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            • #21






              Quote Originally Posted by nightflameauto
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              Reading what Filter500 said above, I'd say try what's suggested there first. It may just be the slightly strident mids that's sucking the atmosphere out of the mix. Mids tend to come across louder to the human ear, and could be covering up what's already there in the rest of the mix making it sound like the guitars aren't a part of it.



              Reverb is such a tricky thing to balance I wouldn't want to make too strong a suggestion until I hear it on the monitors at home and not just on my crappy headphones.




              Yeah, I will put some more work into it. Today I did not get to do much, but hopefully during the weekend I will find some time to try improving this!
              <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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              • #22
                Hi Santuzzo! Hope all is well with you. We've chatted before about recording, so I wanted to chime in.



                You should be very proud of your work and progress! Both the playing and production of those songs are outstanding. You've really come a long way. Asking for and taking advice, and all the work you've done.... has really pushed your work into pro quality.



                It does sound like the guitars are up just a little. When you back them off...just a tiny little bit! I bet it will make a big difference for ya. On my speakers (cheap Altecs w/ sub) it has a nice high and low balance.



                I really can't offer too much more advice. Other than keep doing what you're doing! I think now you've got it good enough (better than good enough) that you can concentrate on making songs! Tons and tons of songs.

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                • #23
                  Hi Santuzzo! Hope all is well with you. We've chatted before about recording, so I wanted to chime in.



                  You should be very proud of your work and progress! Both the playing and production of those songs are outstanding. You've really come a long way. Asking for and taking advice, and all the work you've done.... has really pushed your work into pro quality.



                  It does sound like the guitars are up just a little. When you back them off...just a tiny little bit! I bet it will make a big difference for ya. On my speakers (cheap Altecs w/ sub) it has a nice high and low balance.



                  I really can't offer too much more advice. Other than keep doing what you're doing! I think now you've got it good enough (better than good enough) that you can concentrate on making songs! Tons and tons of songs.

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                  • #24






                    Quote Originally Posted by Stevetemp
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                    Hi Santuzzo! Hope all is well with you. We've chatted before about recording, so I wanted to chime in.



                    You should be very proud of your work and progress! Both the playing and production of those songs are outstanding. You've really come a long way. Asking for and taking advice, and all the work you've done.... has really pushed your work into pro quality.



                    It does sound like the guitars are up just a little. When you back them off...just a tiny little bit! I bet it will make a big difference for ya. On my speakers (cheap Altecs w/ sub) it has a nice high and low balance.



                    I really can't offer too much more advice. Other than keep doing what you're doing! I think now you've got it good enough (better than good enough) that you can concentrate on making songs! Tons and tons of songs.




                    Hey man!





                    Thank you very much for your kind words.

                    All the feedback from you guys on the forum has been very, very helpful!
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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                    • #25






                      Quote Originally Posted by Stevetemp
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                      Hi Santuzzo! Hope all is well with you. We've chatted before about recording, so I wanted to chime in.



                      You should be very proud of your work and progress! Both the playing and production of those songs are outstanding. You've really come a long way. Asking for and taking advice, and all the work you've done.... has really pushed your work into pro quality.



                      It does sound like the guitars are up just a little. When you back them off...just a tiny little bit! I bet it will make a big difference for ya. On my speakers (cheap Altecs w/ sub) it has a nice high and low balance.



                      I really can't offer too much more advice. Other than keep doing what you're doing! I think now you've got it good enough (better than good enough) that you can concentrate on making songs! Tons and tons of songs.




                      Hey man!





                      Thank you very much for your kind words.

                      All the feedback from you guys on the forum has been very, very helpful!
                      <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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                      • #26
                        Sounds great! Great playing.
                        <div class="signaturecontainer">Check out my band &quot;Tock&quot; Debut album coming out soon: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoQgpMooyY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoQgpMooyY</a></div>

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                        • #27
                          Sounds great! Great playing.
                          <div class="signaturecontainer">Check out my band &quot;Tock&quot; Debut album coming out soon: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoQgpMooyY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoQgpMooyY</a></div>

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                          • #28






                            Quote Originally Posted by thefyn
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                            Sounds great! Great playing.




                            Thanks, man!
                            <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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                            • #29






                              Quote Originally Posted by thefyn
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                              Sounds great! Great playing.




                              Thanks, man!
                              <div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.com/">my website - free licks - some of my music</a></font></font></font></div><br><br><div class="signaturecontainer"><font color="royalblue"><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.larsbauer.bandcamp.com/">my new EP 'Sonic Sketches' is out now (instrumental progressive Metal)</a></font></font></font></div>

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                              • #30
                                Lars, you know I've given you a bunch of advice before, so here's the most important bit of advice that I've learned in all my recording, mixing and production experiments: know when to stop messing around with the same 5 songs!

                                You're in danger of burning yourself out tweaking tiny things here and there without getting to writing new material.
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