Members carnage87 Posted May 27, 2006 Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 hi im new to these forums. but i need a lil help if at all possible. i have a yamaha g3 series from like the 1980s. works beautifully but i would like to find the owners manual so i can use it to its full potential. the problem is that the yamaha web site only has a manual for the dg series. which is an entirely different model. i have found a site that seems to have the manual, but it charges 15 bucks for it and id rather get it for free cause im broke lol. so my question is to anyone out there do you know of any place at all that i can get this manual (for free)? or if any one has the exact same model and miraculously has the manual and can email me a copy of it? it would be very much apreciated. or if none of that is an option maybe if someone has this model and knows of a good setting to get a kick as heavy metal distortion with out any effects pedals or processors (again im totally broke or id just buy some effects) that would help out alot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted May 27, 2006 Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 Here you go. HC has a users review page as well and has near every piece of guitar related equipment commented on.http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Yamaha/G100_212_III-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 yeah thank you. but i have already read through all of that, but it didnt quiet give me the info i need other then how to get my headphone jack to work and that i can get a manual by calling yamaha. but i believe they will charge me for it, which i would rather avoid haveing to spend any dough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChS Posted May 27, 2006 Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 What do you need to know about the amp? Featurewise is it setup like the old Yamaha preamp I have? If so you can download the manual off the Yamaha web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 no thats not my amp ill put some pic up in a min so bare with me. i have looked at yamaha.com and they do nit have my model anywere on the site products, manuals etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted May 27, 2006 Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 Originally posted by carnage87 no thats not my amp ill put some pic up in a min so bare with me. i have looked at yamaha.com and they do nit have my model anywere on the site products, manuals etc. Ive been looking for a manual for you also and havent found a free one yet but its still early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 Originally posted by V-Type Ive been looking for a manual for you also and havent found a free one yet but its still early. awsome i need all the help i can get thanks. still working on the images my computers being lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 ill have a pic of the entire amp up in a lil bit photobuckets slow as hell on dial up this is the clean channel this is the distortion channel this is the parametric eq this explains itself lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 heres a pic of the entire amp front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 bumping to see if any one else can help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members planet shh Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 im guessing the manual wont do you much good for what youre looking for you could just try asking your questions in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 im sure the manual wont give me all the answers to the questions i have. but it would be nice to have just in case any problems do arise with my amp. and yes i have searched google over and over again and am even still at this moment typing in all kinds of things just to get even the slightest bit of info i can. but still i am haveing no luck other then finding this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 It's nice to have a manual. IS there anything specific you want to know? I *did* notice you have some EQ settings dimed. Don't see that too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 yeah actually there is something i would like to know id like to know how to fine tune the eq to get some good sounds out of the distortion. ive fiddled with it but im never happy with the results for long. itll sound good when i first set it then ill come back to it and it will sound like crap to me. also id like to know if my mid boost is working properly. im supposed to pull out the gain knob and i guess hear a noticable difference in tone but i cant seem to tell the difference if there is one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChS Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 On mine (my preamp from that era) the key is the parametric EQ, I think mine is set at about 9 O'clock on Freq, 3 O'clock Level, and Noon on Q. And have Volume pot pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by ChS On mine (my preamp from that era) the key is the parametric EQ, I think mine is set at about 9 O'clock on Freq, 3 O'clock Level, and Noon on Q. And have Volume pot pulled. well i tried those settings and i think i found something i might like i now have it set to level(4) Q(12) frequency(7) withe bass, trebble mid and gain all maxed sounds decent through my headphones will have to try it cranked up tomorrow durring the day sounds pretty crunchy id like a lil more bass but i can tweak it as i go along what is your trebble, middle, bass and gain set to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 anouther question. if anyone can explain exactly what each nob contributes to sound wise? i might be able to grasp the concept a lil better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 I don't think anyone can tell you exactly how to set your EQ, There are too many factors. There are a few variations of EQ. On my Fender and VHT twins....if I "zero" the EQ, I don't get much sound. On my Marshall VS100 combo...it sounds great with almost all eq at zero. First thing I would do is bring down all your eq, including the presence... and set the parametric to "0". That's kind of like an "off" switch. Keep in mind that your volume has a lot to do with how you eq. Low volumes will need more low and high. Once you start cranking the amp, you'll find you should reduce your EQ settings...GENERALLY. The type of guitar you use will determine how you use your EQ. I use highs more on LP's than Strats. I use EQ more on the distortion channels to achieve a little more control. If I were you...I would set up the distortion channel like this: High. 10 o'clockMid. 12 or 2Low. 10 o'clock Presence...9 o'clock max. Don't use the parametic yet. EQ's generally work better as cut, rather than boost. IF you cut a little bit around 500-800, you might be able to tighten up the bottom bit. With the low quality of your pics, I can't see what the freq goes up to...but you could add a little bit around 1.2k to give justa bit more bite. I say don't use the parametric if you don't have to. OR use it sparingly. Back that gain down to about 2 or 3 o'clock. Your clean could use some tweaking too....bring all those eq's down to 10 o'clock. Now you could turn up the volumes a bit. Use a little more of the amps natural character. rather than slamming it hard in the EQ section. I do alot of tweaking, and I find it dangerous to have everything on 10 like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChS Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by carnage87 what is your trebble, middle, bass and gain set to? Treble maxed, Mid 9 O'clock, Bass noon, the bass control kind of sucks on mine, it doesn't really do anything past noon, the Parametric's where I can dial in some low-end and lower mids. On the parametric EQ the controls are Level - how much you want to boost using the Para EQ, Q (the range in frequencies around where you set the Freq control, low Q will be pretty focused on the frequency you select in the Freq control), Freq - is the Frequency you want to work with on the Para EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by 17 Tubes I don't think anyone can tell you exactly how to set your EQ, There are too many factors. There are a few variations of EQ. On my Fender and VHT twins....if I "zero" the EQ, I don't get much sound. On my Marshall VS100 combo...it sounds great with almost all eq at zero. First thing I would do is bring down all your eq, including the presence... and set the parametric to "0". That's kind of like an "off" switch. Keep in mind that your volume has a lot to do with how you eq. Low volumes will need more low and high. Once you start cranking the amp, you'll find you should reduce your EQ settings...GENERALLY. The type of guitar you use will determine how you use your EQ. I use highs more on LP's than Strats. I use EQ more on the distortion channels to achieve a little more control. If I were you...I would set up the distortion channel like this:High. 10 o'clockMid. 12 or 2Low. 10 o'clockPresence...9 o'clock max. Don't use the parametic yet. EQ's generally work better as cut, rather than boost. IF you cut a little bit around 500-800, you might be able to tighten up the bottom bit. With the low quality of your pics, I can't see what the freq goes up to...but you could add a little bit around 1.2k to give justa bit more bite. I say don't use the parametric if you don't have to. OR use it sparingly. Back that gain down to about 2 or 3 o'clock. Your clean could use some tweaking too....bring all those eq's down to 10 o'clock. Now you could turn up the volumes a bit. Use a little more of the amps natural character. rather than slamming it hard in the EQ section. I do alot of tweaking, and I find it dangerous to have everything on 10 like that. kool thanks ill give all that a try. and just to note. i dont play with the setting you see in the pictures. they all got out of whack when i was moving it from my room to my computer room and i just recenty started playing my electric again. im guessing my lil bro was turing nobs. oh yeah and as for the levels of the nobs all go up to 10 (as im sure you know) but the parametric nobs are as so level-5 lowest +5 highest Qhas no number value seem to be about 21 tics though from short wave to long wave frequency100 at 7 o'clock200 at 10 o'clock500 at noon1k at 2 o'clock5k at 5 o'clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 ok ive figured out that im going to need 2 settings in the parametric eq for both distortion and clean this explains why id like the sound i had at one time and then completely hate it the next time. so im going to spend the next few hours tweaking my settings to perfection. then ill report back here to give you my results. know if i could only get that manual id be in heaven lol. thanks for the help guys. youll be seeing me around these forums alot from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 ok i have fine tuned my settings to something i like this is the clean settings mid boost pulled treble 6 middle 6 bass 6 clean EQ level 0 Q set at noon freq 100 pesence 0 distortion settings mid boost pulled gain 10 trebble 10 middle 6 bass 6 distortion EQ level +5 Q set to noon freq 100 presence 10 and just cause i can heres a pic of the amp and my guitar haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Ah... I see you have the highs and presence dimed. But you are adding a TON of low end in the parametric. Gain is dimed, but master volume is very low. A little odd...but...dial in whatever works. Try recording it and see how it sounds on playback. Above all...use good common sense and whatever works fer ya. As far as the parametric EQ goes....that is a shared eq? (for both channels?). VHT has a graphic EQ that can be switched from both,to one, or th eother. It automatically can kick in and out when you change channels. I find that sweet....both channles canbebfit from extra EQ, but it's rare that they share the same settings. So I set it up for just the one. Many amps get by with just the standard 3 band EQ, so anything more is icing...if in doubt...just don't use it...or find a middle ground that benefits both channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChS Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by 17 Tubes Gain is dimed, but master volume is very low. A little odd...but...dial in whatever works. Try recording it and see how it sounds on playback. It's a solid state amp, and if it's like my Yamaha from that era it doesn't have a whole lot of gain, maxed out it's like hard rock sort of gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carnage87 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by 17 Tubes Ah... I see you have the highs and presence dimed. But you are adding a TON of low end in the parametric. Gain is dimed, but master volume is very low. A little odd...but...dial in whatever works. Try recording it and see how it sounds on playback.Above all...use good common sense and whatever works fer ya. As far as the parametric EQ goes....that is a shared eq? (for both channels?). VHT has a graphic EQ that can be switched from both,to one, or th eother. It automatically can kick in and out when you change channels. I find that sweet....both channles canbebfit from extra EQ, but it's rare that they share the same settings. So I set it up for just the one. Many amps get by with just the standard 3 band EQ, so anything more is icing...if in doubt...just don't use it...or find a middle ground that benefits both channels. i do not have the volume set in the picture i turn it all the way down when i turn on or off the amp just for good messures. but even the no matter what i do the volume never seems to make it past 1 or 2 unless i want to shatter some windows lol. as for recorging i tried both out and they sound good to me. yeah the eqs are shared. i wrote down my settings for both for quick reference. but it will kinda suck if im playing a song and need to switch between the two. i should look into finding the foot switch and see if that has anything that might aleviate that problem. but it shouldnt bother me that much cause the clean sounds decent on the distorions eq settings the settings i have for the clean eq are just prefered for the type of things i play on a clean channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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