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  • bendedavis
    started a topic Just bought a Peavey Valve King 112

    Just bought a Peavey Valve King 112

    I bought this amp on Friday after playing it in the store and being pretty impressed with it. Right after I bought I went to practice with my brother. The thing I really don't like about this amp is that it doesn't have the same tone when it gets loud, I'm guessing this is just because of the open back. At low volumes it sounds great. I live in an apartment and here it's fine, but I'd like an amp that I can be heard over drums with, and still have good tone. I was thinking about taking it back for a B52 AT112 since I've heard they are pretty versatile and have a closed back. What do you guys think? I play mostly indie music but my brother likes playing metal so I need an amp that can do metal and also have a nice clean tone.

  • Deuterium
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    You're right.

    Noon is definitely the sweetspot on the VK's gain. You can go a little higher and still be ok depending on what pickups you're using, but really... right around noon is just right for rock.

    The absolute only time the boost is worth using is if you drop the volume on your guitar. Then, the boost just tightens things up instead of making it's capable of doing. However, like you said- the bad monkey does a much better job.

    Good amp. I've found it does really well in a band situation.


    Thanks.

    I have determined that [GUITAR --> OD/boost pedal ---> Tube Amp set for med. Gain] maximizes great lead guitar tone, and is a fundamental physical equation of our Universe (much like Newton's Laws of Motion).

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  • Zappa74
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    As with ALL tube amps...

    I have found the best sweet spot with my ValveKing 100 head is to have the gain set at noon or even a bit lower...definitely NO higher. Do NOT engage the gain boost. Set the Resonance and Presence at Noon.

    This will give you a nice, round, warm overdriven tone.

    Then, use a nice OD pedal, such as a Digitech Bad Monkey, to send it over the top.

    Do NOT listen to people who preach that an amp should make all the gain and tone you need...and/or that you don't need no stinkin' pedals. THIS IS NOT TRUE . Every tube amp I have ever owned has performed and sounded better when setting the amps controls for low to moderate overdrive/gain...and then boosting and slamming the front-end with an overdrive pedal (not a distortion pedal).

    Give it a try, at least.


    You're right.

    Noon is definitely the sweetspot on the VK's gain. You can go a little higher and still be ok depending on what pickups you're using, but really... right around noon is just right for rock.

    The absolute only time the boost is worth using is if you drop the volume on your guitar. Then, the boost just tightens things up instead of making it's capable of doing. However, like you said- the bad monkey does a much better job.

    Good amp. I've found it does really well in a band situation.

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  • bendedavis
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    couldn't you just buy the cab outright, and make payments on the head?


    That's true. The payments would be more if I just did them on the head cuz it'd only be 3 payments split up. But that still isn't too bad.

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  • cobrahead1030
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    Well yeah, but the thing is I only have about 500 right now. So I could get one and then wait forever to get the other OR I could get them both now and pay for the next 5 months.


    couldn't you just buy the cab outright, and make payments on the head?

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  • Ramblin390
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    my classic 30 def. sounded better once the speaker broke in.

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  • bendedavis
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    As with ALL tube amps...

    I have found the best sweet spot with my ValveKing 100 head is to have the gain set at noon or even a bit lower...definitely NO higher. Do NOT engage the gain boost. Set the Resonance and Presence at Noon.

    This will give you a nice, round, warm overdriven tone.

    Then, use a nice OD pedal, such as a Digitech Bad Monkey, to send it over the top.

    Do NOT listen to people who preach that an amp should make all the gain and tone you need...and/or that you don't need no stinkin' pedals. THIS IS NOT TRUE . Every tube amp I have ever owned has performed and sounded better when setting the amps controls for low to moderate overdrive/gain...and then boosting and slamming the front-end with an overdrive pedal (not a distortion pedal).

    Give it a try, at least.


    I've got an SD-1, guess I could give it a try.

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  • Deuterium
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    I've tried it all the way to both sides and many places in the between. The distortion was just really harsh when loud.


    As with ALL tube amps...

    I have found the best sweet spot with my ValveKing 100 head is to have the gain set at noon or even a bit lower...definitely NO higher. Do NOT engage the gain boost. Set the Resonance and Presence at Noon.

    This will give you a nice, round, warm overdriven tone.

    Then, use a nice OD pedal, such as a Digitech Bad Monkey, to send it over the top.

    Do NOT listen to people who preach that an amp should make all the gain and tone you need...and/or that you don't need no stinkin' pedals. THIS IS NOT TRUE . Every tube amp I have ever owned has performed and sounded better when setting the amps controls for low to moderate overdrive/gain...and then boosting and slamming the front-end with an overdrive pedal (not a distortion pedal).

    Give it a try, at least.

    Leave a comment:


  • bendedavis
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    $599 sounds like a lot for that cab!

    you could get a splawn 2x12 for around that:
    http://www.splawnguitars.com/custenclos.htm

    or if ya wanna go cheaper, i'd check out one of the avatar vintage cabs like this one:
    http://www.avatarspeakers.com/Vintage%20Premier.htm

    i'm not knocking the randall as they do make great stuff, i just haven't played that particular cab


    Well yeah, but the thing is I only have about 500 right now. So I could get one and then wait forever to get the other OR I could get them both now and pay for the next 5 months.

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  • cobrahead1030
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    OK here it is. B52 AT100 head and Randall R212NXT cab. Think that'll work good?


    $599 sounds like a lot for that cab!

    you could get a splawn 2x12 for around that:
    http://www.splawnguitars.com/custenclos.htm

    or if ya wanna go cheaper, i'd check out one of the avatar vintage cabs like this one:
    http://www.avatarspeakers.com/Vintage%20Premier.htm

    i'm not knocking the randall as they do make great stuff, i just haven't played that particular cab

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  • bendedavis
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    What was your texture knob on?


    I've tried it all the way to both sides and many places in the between. The distortion was just really harsh when loud.

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  • 5ththrax
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    What was your texture knob on?

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  • bendedavis
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    OK here it is. B52 AT100 head and Randall R212NXT cab. Think that'll work good?

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  • bendedavis
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    After looking at a lot of good reviews for the B52 AT100 head I think i'm gonna get it with a 212 cab. I think I'll just return the Peavey tomorrow. I'll probably use MF since they'll let you do 5 payments on stuff over $1,000. What 212 should I get from Musician's Friend?

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  • Tele The Truth
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    I'm not a big fan of the VKs, but FWIW.....you may just need to break in the speaker some. Push em hard for a few weeks and then see where you're at with the amp.

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