Members charveldan Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 http://www.5min.com/Video/Rare-Les-Paul-Guitar-on-Pawn-Stars-517253404 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mary-Fords-Personal-Gibson-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar-History-Channels-Pawn-Stars-/220939792311?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337109afb7 Rick paid $90K and is asking $250K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Abouttreefitty Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 It'll be interesting to see what the reserve is set at. Probably $249,999.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Abouttreefitty Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I wonder if the guy actually sold it to the pawn shop. I wouldn't put it past them to fake the sale on tv to get free national advertising for it, and in return for doing that Rick would take a cut of the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 [video=youtube;Gvu6APT3JLY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeterChris Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I wonder if the guy actually sold it to the pawn shop. I wouldn't put it past them to fake the sale on tv to get free national advertising for it, and in return for doing that Rick would take a cut of the sale. No, sane people that know the value of their stuff fly across country to get screwed all the time man. Except for when their asked to do it and get a serious pay check out of it and a nice vacation in Las Vegas for free. Of coarse something is up its tv, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 That guitar is just....WOW. A dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thurston Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 That was cool, I love Dave Attel. I thought I saw a Pawn Stars where he said he doesn't deal Nazi stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norton666 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I worked in the pawn business for a few years in Reno and it was interesting to say the least. The profit margins are insane. Definitely a lot of fun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 There is one Les Paul/Mary Ford album cover where Les has a Goldtop, and Mary has an SG Custom in white, but the truss rod cover reads "Mary Ford Model". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SexWithRobots Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 How much profit you think that shop pulls in a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I just watched that episode the other night. Very nice guitar indeed. I like when the guitar shop dude played it and started going off and Rick was like, "so it works?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted January 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 http://www.history.com/shows/pawn-stars/videos/pawn-stars-less-is-more#pawn-stars-less-is-more Episode in question......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members guitarcapo Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Fake show is fake. I'm amazed they don't have to show a disclaimer or something to avoid charges of fraud. It's one thing to do a reality show that's really "improvisational theater" for entertainment....but the minute you start selling stuff to the public that's on the show, it becomes a commercial and false advertising laws should come into play. I know for a fact that they often will have a fake actor bring in a guitar from another store and a fake expert will "discover" problems with the sale or "discover" the fantastic treasure before them and that it's all staged. There's a thread about a "50's Les Paul" episode where the "expert" points out that it's a Norlin Les Paul. The guy bringing it in AND the expert both work for Cowtown guitars. One is a tech and the other an employee. The exact same guitar is listed on their website for sale as a 70's Les Paul. Another episode shows some vinatge Coke machine that's "restored" but in reality it's an entirely different machine and both are property of the restoration place. What a scam. This show is a commercial for a working place of buisiness and fraud is being committed on the public in how it represents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 these shows are re-enactments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members facefirst Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Every reality show is staged to one degree or another. It's entertainment, plain and simple. You'd be bored to tears if they just filmed a normal day in a pawn shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fly135 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 LOL @ suing a TV show for fraud. I couldn't care less if it's fake. I still enjoy watching it. It should be fairly obvious that those people don't know what they pretend to know on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 LOL @ suing a TV show for fraud. I couldn't care less if it's fake. I still enjoy watching it. Exactly. Stupid people already have the market cornered on frivolous lawsuits. They don't need another one. The show is on the History Channel for a reason. It's a vehicle to present historical factoids and such. A brilliant idea, really. Rick and his crew/business hit the jackpot when the show's producers picked them to be the focal point. And the new hire, Olivia, is HOT! I'm even more interested in watching the show now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted January 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I saw it on TV, it must be real........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 My point is that there's a fine line you cross from it being "entertainment" to being a "commercial" when you offer a product from a staged event for sale to the general public based on false pretenses. If, taking the above example, no $80,000 changed hands between the pawn shop and the guy who brought it in, that creates a false perception of collector value to the general public. Staging "experts" who really aren't "experts" but just actors evaluating merchandise is basically fraud. This doesn't just depend on whether the item is sold or even for sale. If I own a piece of art and have a show where I stage a fake expert valuing it highly, I profit just by owning the piece whether it's sold immediately or not. Also showing fake restorations is commercial fraud benefitting the restoration place. Maybe the laws regarding commecial fraud only apply to airwaves and not paid cable. Or maybe a class action lawsuit subpoena might show up at that store some day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hardvalve Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 It is moderately entertaining and interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComOp Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wait wait wait.... So Operation Repo is fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm confused about the model. Isn't that an SG body? Why is it called a Les Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 If, taking the above example, no $80,000 changed hands between the pawn shop and the guy who brought it in, that creates a false perception of collector value to the general public. They spent some money to acquire that guitar. No one just gave it to them. And the amount portrayed as paid seems reasonable; it's not like they claim to have paid 10 million dollars for it. Have you read the fine print in the show's credits, assuming there is some? I haven't, but if there's verbiage stating that elements of the show are fake or staged, all a class action lawsuit is gonna do is make the producers present the disclaimer more prominently. Ultimately, you're reading too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Back then I think they were using Les Paul's name on any solid body electric. AFter a while I think he asked for his name to just be on the one model. Some Les Paul experts will probably post the definitive response soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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