Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I know it's supposed to go in the RETURN of the amp, but how to use it with others pedals that are supposed to be in the effects loop (delay, chorus) ? Noob question, I know Right now, my rig is: guitar--tuner--wah--overdrive--noise suppresor--Peavey Classic30 combo (delay and chorus in the effects loop). Do I simply have to place the R1 in the FX-loop before the delay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Place time based effects AFTER the R1 in your loop. So FX Send---R1--delay----chorus---fx return. That's the general rule of thumb. Time based after the preamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I know that, but the problem is that on AMT site they say the connection should be guitar---R1---amp effects-loop return, not guitar---amp input and R1 in the effects-loop, do you know what I mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 The R1 is a preamp so it has to go into the fx return of your amp thus bypassing your amp's preamp section. No idea how the fx placement should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I know that, but the problem is that on AMT site they say the connection should be guitar---R1---amp effects-loop return, not guitar---amp input and R1 in the effects-loop, do you know what I mean ? The go guitar---r1---effects---loop return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magh8 Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 guitar>tuner>wah>R1>gate>(delay/chorus)>return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 guitar>tuner>wah>R1>gate>(delay/chorus)>return This sound about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 guitar>tuner>wah>R1>gate>(delay/chorus)>return I don't get it, only delay and chorus are in the loop ? If yes, that's not good, R1 must be connected to the amp's FX loop return. Or do you mean I will not use the amp input at all and all the pedals go the Return ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IPlayMetronome Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 You do not plug into the front input at all. Took me a second to wrap my head around it too. I'm going guitar>tuner>OD boost>delay>Noisegate>return. There is some weirdness going on due to the circuitry of my amp and the presence control is taken out of the circuit when I run into the return but I can still get useable cleans out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I don't get it, only delay and chorus are in the loop ? If yes, that's not good, R1 must be connected to the amp's FX loop return. Or do you mean I will not use the amp input at all and all the pedals go the Return ? You're not using the amp input. Guitar - Tuner - Wah - input of R1 Output of R1 - Gate - Chorus - Delay Output of Delay - fx return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 That means I will not be able to use the clean channel of the amp...that sucks. And I don't know why AMT didn't include the Rectifier in the Drive pedal series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IPlayMetronome Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 You should still have a clean signal with the R1 off... EDIT: Do not connect anything to the Send either or it will sound like donkey ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 You should still have a clean signal with the R1 off...EDIT: Do not connect anything to the Send either or it will sound like donkey ass. What amp do you have ? Did you try to place the R1 in the effects-loop (using both SEND and RETURN) and sounded that bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IPlayMetronome Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have a Carvin X100-b and yes, using the full loop the AMT's are unusable. I have the S1 and absolutely love it btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm finally gonna get to use my new R1 today.....through the loop of my Prosonic. I'm expecting epic things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm finally gonna get to use my new R1 today.....through the loop of my Prosonic. I'm expecting epic things Please try the full loop too and report back how it sounds compared to R1--->Return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Please try the full loop too and report back how it sounds compared to R1--->Return. Not to sound dickly, but why do you want him to "report" back, when you could just take 10 minutes and try every possible option listed here, and choose which one YOU like the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Not to sound dickly, but why do you want him to "report" back, when you could just take 10 minutes and try every possible option listed here, and choose which one YOU like the best? dick dickly I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 dick dickly I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Not to sound dickly, but why do you want him to "report" back, when you could just take 10 minutes and try every possible option listed here, and choose which one YOU like the best? Because I haven't bought the pedal yet. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurism Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 the amt pedals are greatthey are preampsif you bought a mesa triaxis or marshall jmp1 or engl e570 would you be bitching that you cant plug them into the front of your amp? Also, if you cant figure out where to put pedals that are designed to go in front of your preamp vs those that go between preamp and power amp, perhaps this preamp pedal is not for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 the amt pedals are greatthey are preampsif you bought a mesa triaxis or marshall jmp1 or engl e570 would you be bitching that you cant plug them into the front of your amp?Also, if you cant figure out where to put pedals that are designed to go in front of your preamp vs those that go between preamp and power amp, perhaps this preamp pedal is not for you He might just be an older guy who never had to deal with preamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vickno Posted February 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Guys, you're missing the point: I want to be able to use BOTH the R1 and the amp clean channel, that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Guys, you're missing the point: I want to be able to use BOTH the R1 and the amp clean channel, that's the problem. Horse of a different color there. Thats gonna be tough. I think you could do it wit an aby pedal and a kill switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members N.O'Bier Posted February 19, 2012 Members Share Posted February 19, 2012 Because I haven't bought the pedal yet. :poke: They're releasing new preamp pedals where you have the ability to use in front of the amp or in the return. Just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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