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  • Liscenses?

    Here's the dealio:

    A band, say a fictional band, makes a demo/fan disc in the basement of his, ahem... thier home. The band, the fictional band has covered other artists songs along with a few originals.

    Now the purpose of the disc is promo and fun fan swag.

    How seriously should the fictional band persue liscenses at $40+ per song?

    http://www.songfile.com/license_home.html

    Would the fictional band worry about the song police showing up?

    We're talking $250 bucks here people! A moral dilema fit for discussion amoung the Vets.

    Karlos
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  • #2
    I think I'd play it straight. I'd probably decide not to include any covers. Or maybe if there was one or two that I really just had to have, I might spring for the $80, but not $250.

    How much will you sell the CDs for, and how many do you expect to sell?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Doc Wilson
      I think I'd play it straight. I'd probably decide not to include any covers. Or maybe if there was one or two that I really just had to have, I might spring for the $80, but not $250.

      How much will you sell the CDs for, and how many do you expect to sell?


      I was, er...the fictional band was thinking to churn them out as needed for gigs. 500 would be a lot. Liscense are for 500 minimum. I dunno, 8 songs- 10 bucks?

      I was thinking the fictional band could give one away with each T-shirt sale, but it's not sales, but distribution that requires liscenses.

      As an artist, I'm thinking if someone used my songs, I'd want a taste.

      Cost of doing bidness, I suppose?

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      • #4
        I'd really think hard about what covers to include. Cheapskate that I am, I'd probably just go all original.

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        • #5
          Would said fictionalband be selling, broadcasting or making a profit on this illusory disk??? Hypothetically speaking of course.
          Thanks, and rock on!

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          • #6
            I don't know, man. The music police are a bad lot.

            They actually make High School Marching Bands pay to license music, if there's any chance at all that any marching performance will be taped and slod or distributed.

            I mean, how jacked is that?
            ... there's more guitar content and less annonymous cowards grinding their axes ...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by braif
              Would said fictionalband be selling, broadcasting or making a profit on this illusory disk??? Hypothetically speaking of course.


              Selling- most likely.
              Broadcasting- Har!
              Profit- not if more fees keep popping up!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Doc Wilson
                I'd really think hard about what covers to include. Cheapskate that I am, I'd probably just go all original.


                Thing is, the disc is a taste of the hypothetical act, like for a promo pack, and it's a cover band mostly, theoretically speaking.
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                • #9
                  Not meaning to be overly critical here, but:

                  Licence = the English/Canadian spelling.

                  License = the Correct/American spelling.

                  Right?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JD92
                    Not meaning to be overly critical here, but:

                    Licence = the English/Canadian spelling.

                    License = the Correct/American spelling.

                    Right?



                    You know, it's one of those words I always get wrong.

                    And, yes. You are overly critical.

                    Any topic thoughts?

                    Thanques

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                    • #11
                      I would ask Cybele about the possibility of doing a medley (or more than one). I recall her saying something about licensing fees back when I interviewed her for my site. I think if you use less than a certain percentage of a song, you don't have to pay the license fees.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rangerkarlos


                        You know, it's one of those words I always get wrong.

                        And, yes. You are overly critical.

                        Any topic thoughts?

                        Thanques

                        Karlos


                        I always struggle with "tomorrow." But, I think I got it right this time.

                        On topic thoughts? Sure. Think like a lawyer. A lawyer will get one-third of whatever the copyright holder sues you to recover based on your unlicensed performance. Unless you think you'll pull in thousands of dollars for this CD, I wouldn't worry about it.


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                        • #13
                          How about the EVil DJ's?????

                          They are spinning a multitude of copyrighted material for fun and profit. Hell, nowdays they DL it and store it on disc, not even buying the material in the first place.

                          Where is The Man in this case?
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                          • #14
                            I know of a few 'hypothetical' cover bands who, if they existed which they dont, put out cover CD's to book gigs and for folks that like them without worrying too greatly about licences. Just a thought



                            Oh and licence is the correct spelling



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                            • #15
                              I personally wouldnt sweat it too much, unless you err, the fictional band, thought the cover song might actually cover a cover so well that it receieved attention in a manner that would prick up the music police collective ears. If its only getting handed out as promos, or sold as a promo, I would chance it.

                              I have several promo Cd's in my house right now with cover tunes on them, A few are coasters they bands are so bland.

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