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  • OT: It's not "the" war, it's BUSH'S war.

    And it must always be referred to as such. That way, when our soldiers start coming home in body bags, and the world is engulfed in flames, everybody will be reminded of who is responsable.
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  • #2
    Remember the Maine...

    (Same kind of war)

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    • #3
      There are so diplomatic many options left. It's a pity the American president, or should I say the man who stole the seat as American president, has decided not to use any of them. The world will suffer
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      • #4
        Call it whatever you want. It's time to go kick some ass.

        I don't like President Bush, but this bull**************** has gone on way too long. The US didn't do the job right the first time. I think they will get it done this time.

        Of course there will be casualties of War, but the sacrifices of the US will be much fewer than those of their enemies.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mundungus
          Of course there will be casualties of War, but the sacrifices of the US will be much fewer than those of their enemies.


          And that's suposed to be comforting?

          Can you please tell this to the mothers of the children and the daughters of the elders that will also be killed by the US bombings in Bagdad. Say something like "Don't cry, it's not so bad, your infant son wasn't an American citizen after all" or "Your grandma really wasn't a very good soldier, sitting in that wheel chair"... but promise meto look them deep in the eyes whe you do it.

          If wars were actually fought by the leaders of our nations, the people who claim to be each others enemies, then I'd be all for it. A real fist fight between Saddam and Bush, hell I'd watch it too. Even if it got nasty, I have no problem with that concept.

          What I have a problem with is that a lot of innocent people, who do not hate anyone and who are not anyone's enemy, are going to be killed, while the guys who got it all started just sit there and laugh at us being fooled into killing each other for thier sake again.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Terje
            And that's suposed to be comforting?

            Can you please tell this to the mothers of the children and the daughters of the elders that will also be killed by the US bombings in Bagdad. Say something like "Don't cry, it's not so bad, your infant son wasn't an American citizen after all" or "Your grandma really wasn't a very good soldier, sitting in that wheel chair"... but promise meto look them deep in the eyes whe you do it. ......

            .........What I have a problem with is that a lot of innocent people, who do not hate anyone and who are not anyone's enemy, are going to be killed, while the guys who got it all started just sit there and laugh at us being fooled into killing each other for thier sake again.
            Bloody well said, Terje. Human life is human life.

            A lot of those Iraqi soldiers are stuck in the army. No they don't all hate America. They hate their ruler screwing them over. And when he's out of power Bush will just sit in his seat and screw them over again.

            It's all well and good for you to be sitting in you "land of the free" and say that you want to see some fireworks or that you want to see Iraqi blood. I wonder what you would be saying if you were born on the the Iraqi side. Another child that's starving, sick, thirsty, homeless and scared......because your mother can't take care of you and your father got blown away trying to defend a leader he didn't even like.

            It's a sad thing....war. I really feel for those poor, innocent, frightened Iraqis.

            Looks to me like Bush just wants to stir up the media.
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            • #7
              Oh pleeeeease gimme me a ****************'n break....


              How many thousands did we massacre in the gulf war? Huh? The enemy soldiers surrendered in MASS at our arrival. What a friggin joke this BS about tens of thousands of body bags needed .... It wouldnt shock me a bit if the iraqi's met us at the palace with sadams head on a pole!

              And whats this horse**************** about life that you are touting so highly? What about the lives of the kerds who were massacred? Or perhaps you forgot the moms and dads of the 911 incident victims? Guess THEY dont have any rights either huh? Just saddam and his henchmen?

              Or maybe perhaps we should send Natalie Maine over there to live in a gerka and be beat the hell out of for a year and see what she thinks about our meddling in the lives of the iraqi's?

              The plain simple truth is this... Noone but saddam is responsible for those who die now. 12 years he has defied, laughed, mocked, and insulted the entire world and now at the last minute when he knows he has had it he will let his people die for HIM. What kind of ****************ed up leader is that? "You will have to murder my people to get to me!" type mentality. And what of his sons, huh? One has such a violent history of rape and torture that even sadam wont allow him to succeed him. The other also has rape and murdered so many that neither of them can walk the streets of bagdad without an armed escort because of loving fathers and relatives sowrn to avenge their murdered family members. Bloody butchers of children and women for the pleasure of it. And you guys think THEY are the victims when we go over there? That the nasty old USA is going over there to murder the helpless iraqi's?
              The iraqi people have a choice. Just as they did in desert storm. And they chose well then... They can do the same this time and NO iraqi mommies and daddies will grieve. Only saddams...

              No damnit, we are going over there to kill saddam for the good of all people in that region, as well as for the good of those who will CERTAINLY die from terrorists trained by the iraqi govt in the future. Its been learned and forgotten so many times in the worlds history that this may be a new concept to ya. But when a murderer/rapist/terrorist/butcher like saddam and his sons exists, the only means to get rid of them is to KILL THEM!

              And god completely condones killing for a just reason (like saving thousands of innocent lives like the kerds for example...) But the real truth is, few have the guts to do what the US is gonna do.

              (if this doesnt get a rise i'll be shocked.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by StratKat
                .. Noone but saddam is responsible for those who die now.


                You can fool some of the people all of the time. These are the ones we have to cultivate. - G.W. Bush
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                • #9
                  Show me one time where diplomacy stopped a hitler, or musolini, or saddam....

                  Diplomacy only works for for people willing to comprimise for the good of the whole. Saddam never compromises until the barrel of a big gun is aimed at his balls... And even then, he reverts right back to his usual **************** as soon as the gun is lowered. He has had umpteen chances in the last decade to be a prfitable, peacable, supportive, and respected leader of the free world. He doesnt wanna play nice, or be our buddies, or support the world in ending hunger, disease, poverty. or anything else except supporting himself and his sons as reigning dictators of terror. He is a ****************ing monster!
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                  • #10
                    Ya know? I was thinking.... what if we turn the table upside down for a second.

                    Tell me how diplomacy is the answer IF GW decided he is going to go to war and noone is gonna change his mind....?

                    How has diplomacy stopped EITHER saddam or GW?

                    It hasnt.... BUT, at least the USA has given saddam 12 years to change his mind while WE watched the UN be made fools of....by saddam.

                    Truth is, that diplomacy NEVER has worked because the villiam refuses to leave power until their life is taken from them. Thats why war will always be around. And its futile to think one day the world will be like star trek and everyone will be happy.

                    Man is a dangerous animal.... He will never be totally tamed. Those who think so are just prey...
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                    • #11
                      Saddamn deserves punishment no doubt. It's just sad that the Iraqi people have to suffer because of that one lawless f*ck.
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                      • #12
                        Well, i think thats why the pres said he and his cohorts.

                        Its more then him and his sons. Its all those who willingly supported his torture and attrocities that has to go. And thats why we most likely will overthrow most of his government. If it was as simple as just him we could send him a lottery ticket for Powerball and annouce his number as the winner. Then we could 'talk' to him about his doings when he came to collect!
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                        • #13
                          Listen to StratKat ....he's a smart man.

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                          • #14
                            "Frontline" was on PBS last night and had an excellent program tracing the history of the UN and their attempts to disarm Saddam. In a nutshell...the inspections started around 1991 and almost immediately were met with resistance and lies. Inspectors would show up unannounced, be denied access, and then they would camp outside the building or facility until the UN would step in and force compliance (this would take days). Chemical weapons plants were blown up, plans for nuclear weapons were confiscated, and materials used for enriching uranium were found.

                            Eventually France, Russia, and China began to soften their stance...reportedly because France and China had economic stakes in rebuilding parts of Iraq, and Russia was owed billions of dollars by Saddam for weapons purchased prior to the Gulf War.

                            The UN quit backing the inspection teams and eventually they were forced out of the country.

                            Jumping ahead, President Clinton (in 1998) gave a speech that sounded an awful lot like President Bush's. Basically he stated that if Saddam did not comply with disarmament, the U.S. would be forced to take military action. According to the program, Clinton had bombers on the way to Iraq in 1998, but recalled them. He was in the middle of the "Monica" affair and was worried about public opinion.

                            Frontline notes that President Bush's policies were much like President Clinton's. Meaning no real changes in how the U.S. dealt with Iraq (among others). Then came 9/11.

                            This is not one man's war. It has spanned 3 administrations. The groundwork for this was laid at the tail end of the Gulf War. Saddam was fearful he would lose control of the country. When the peacekeeping forces stopped short of Bhagdad and then did not interfere when he eliminated all opposition (both rebel (south) and political (north)), they enabled him to regain control and start the process all over again.

                            High-ranking officials from Iraq who have since defected have stated the Saddam will not waver from his course.

                            Our country is not known for conquering other lands and expanding it's empire and it saddens me to hear other people accuse it of that.

                            This has taken a while to compose and type...since then StratKat has posted a couple of things. I was going to go on, but he's pretty much covered some of the other stuff I wanted to say (in a little different style, perhaps, but what the heck.)

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                            • #15
                              Yea though i walk through the "Valley-Of-Shadows", i shall not fear. For i have 2 spare sets of "Ernie Balls" in my guitar case! Muahahahaha!

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