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  • I hate lion

    I'm kicking the tires on a macbook with lion, and it is simply a pain in the ass. I have most of the iOS type features turned off but it's still buggier than a kansas city apartment building.

    the machine is a 2.4 GHz C2D with 2 gigs of ram. it was the last of the MacBooks before they went all in on the air.
    it just stops doing anything. you don't loose curser, but it just wont execute. no beach ball to indicate it's working on something.
    if you accidentally use a gesture you weren't trying to use, you can end up in a state you don't know how to get out of, or how you got there.
    browser pages reload for no reason erasing my very important posts in the PP.
    it gets stuck at a zoom level that can only be corrected by closing the window and reopening it. it's quite frustrating at times

    it came with 10.6 but was in the upgrade period. I bought 5 of them. My rep didn't tell me that if i waited a couple days I could get the new model. I even had a big hassle with apple over installing loin, because my serial numbers weren't coming up in there update system. Long story short, I'm getting a new macbook pro for my boss, so i'll grab his old MBP and use it for a while. I'll give this machine to one of my users.

    I really like 10.6. 10.7 seems to me as an unnecessary inclusion of features more useful on the ipad and iPhone.

    and what is up with the new finalcut. it's a remake of imovie, and not a really good one at that.

    that's my rant and I'm sticking to it.

    PS -- Just now I went the apple site to check something and got a beach ball for 7 minutes because I tried to use a the search field.

    :facepalm:

  • #2
    I just got myself a brand new 2010 MacBook Air with Snow Leopard installed at a huge discount - and I'm really happy I got that instead of a 2011 with Lion. Snow Leopard is the best OS on the market imo.
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    • #3
      I've got pretty much the same macbook pro model. Same clock speed and processor. I haven't had any of the problems you're complaining about. It does sound like you might want to turn off some of the touch pad features. (It's easy to get three fingers on the pad, and in prior OS's the extra fingers were ignored.) I am running 4 GB of ram. Maybe your machine is starved for RAM?

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      • #4
        2gb is barely enough to run an OS these days.
        Go to at least 4gb and more if you're producing music/video.
        When you dont have enough ram stuff gets paged to the drive and thats SLOW

        As cheap as ram is these days..... (I paid $400 for my 128k to 512k Mac upgrade while a 4gb or 8gb upgrade will set you back less than $100)
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        • #5
          Sounds like there is some corruption going on there..

          There's a little free app in the App store called "FreeMemory" that might be worth downloading. Although it's job is to actually free up your memory, it does show how much is in use and how much is free at any given time. If the machine is clogging up due to memory shortages then it might help you to identify if memory is the issue.
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          • #6
            I'm still on Snow Leopard, and I've had similar beachball problems with Safari ever since the updates that came through when Lion went live (more like 1-2 minute hangs rather than 7, though).
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            • #7
              Hi,

              I´m running Lion on a End 2010 Mac Book Pro with 4 GB of RAM. Works like a breeze from the first day. Even solved some issues I had with my Air Port...

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              • #8
                Going from 2 to4 gb of Ram will make your experience 100% better. 8GB Doubly so. Ram is cheap now, it is a bad place to save money. I dropped a 500 GB Hybrid drive in mine and it smokes (2.4 Core 2 Duo, 13 inch MBP)
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                • #9
                  I have issues where the curser refuses to move. I have a 2011 MBP with Lion and 4GB RAM.

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                  • #10
                    I haven't really thought of a good reason to try Lion, I'm sure it would just muck things up. I've got two MBP's; the older one from late '08 is a 15" 2.4Ghz core 2 duo with 4gig ram and the newer one I bought November '10 is a 17" 2.53Ghz core i5 with 8gig ram. I did upgrade the older one to Snow Leopard without much trouble while the newer one came with Snow Leopard of course. One big reason for not jumping on the Lion train is that Snow Leopard isn't even that old, can hardly be considered outdated, and I have other things to do.
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                    • #11
                      All these issues with Lion are starting to sound eerily reminiscent of the curse inherent in the so-called "upgrade" path of Microsoft's operating systems.

                      I too will happily remain content with Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future.
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                      • #12
                        I found out there is actually something wrong with my new MBP. 4 nights ago the screen developed a full length bright green line on the screen as well as various glitches. I call apple care and I have to take it in to be repaired/ replaced.

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                        • #13
                          I found out there is actually something wrong with my new MBP. 4 nights ago the screen developed a full length bright green line on the screen as well as various glitches. I call apple care and I have to take it in to be repaired/ replaced.


                          Video card and/or inverter is bad. I see this with Dells on a pretty regular basis. Pretty easy fix if you have the spare logic board, though, so shouldn't be out of your hands for too long.
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                          • #14
                            Video card and/or inverter is bad. I see this with Dells on a pretty regular basis. Pretty easy fix if you have the spare logic board, though, so shouldn't be out of your hands for too long.


                            Thanks for the heads up. I hope I do get it back soon. They told me between 1-3 weeks

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the heads up. I hope I do get it back soon. They told me between 1-3 weeks


                              Did you have to mail it in? 1-3 weeks seems like a long time to me if you were dropping it to a retail location.
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