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  • #31
    Thanks Barry!..I enjoyed that ..yep, excellent solo.


    For a jam band guy to bust out crazy country licks like that, and not just sound like he's faking it, but really playing with his own voice... he's so damn versatile, and his playing is always fun and unique. I don't care for a lot of Phish's music anymore, but Trey is still one of my musical heroes.
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    • #32
      reba is a freaking classic too, too many to list. love that band and trey isnt even the most talented person in the band.
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      • #33
        Damn, you guys are going to make me listen to Phish.
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        • #34
          Not really. I maintain that modern technology has made tabs a superior form of written music when pertaining to stringed instruments. It is also easy to understand, and I'd feel safe in claiming that more guitarists know how to read music today than in the past, just not that format of written music.


          I'd disagree with you on all but your last point. Tabs don't represent music, they represent fingerings. They are virtually useless for communicating with other musicians, composers, arrangers, etc., you can't - except perhaps by some intense removed concentration - get an instant of how something should sound, especially if there's an alternate tuning in use, they can't indicate rhythm except by borrowing from standard notation, which often looks clumsy and awkward, etc. And I'd bet dollars that a good sight-reader could pick up a part just as or more quickly and accurately than anyone could with tabs, especially as the material becomes complex. Tabs have perks, but fingerings are largely intuitive to experienced readers.

          But my point is that a guitarist who has successfully worked through the GVE books in their entirety will exhibit a high degree of competence. I suppose that there's a theoretical "except if..." situation, but it seems almost inconceivable.

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          • #35
            I'd disagree with you on all but your last point. Tabs don't represent music, they represent fingerings. They are virtually useless for communicating with other musicians, composers, arrangers, etc., you can't - except perhaps by some intense removed concentration - get an instant of how something should sound, especially if there's an alternate tuning in use, they can't indicate rhythm except by borrowing from standard notation, which often looks clumsy and awkward, etc. And I'd bet dollars that a good sight-reader could pick up a part just as or more quickly and accurately than anyone could with tabs, especially as the material becomes complex. Tabs have perks, but fingerings are largely intuitive to experienced readers.

            But my point is that a guitarist who has successfully worked through the GVE books in their entirety will exhibit a high degree of competence. I suppose that there's a theoretical "except if..." situation, but it seems almost inconceivable.


            You're not using the right tabs then.

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            • #36
              You're not using the right tabs then.

              Guitar Pro, it's so guitar bros can become pro, bro!


              I'm glad we talked.

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              • #37
                I'm glad we talked.


                But in seriousness, stuff like Guitar Pro is to people who can learn by ear as notation is to people who can sight-read. It is also super-easy to change the fingering (literally just push a button to move the note to the adjacent string).

                Notation is very cumbersome to learn, in comparison. You have three separate clefs to memorize, as opposed to tab's stating the tuning and just working from there.
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                • #38
                  But in seriousness, stuff like Guitar Pro is to people who can learn by ear as notation is to people who can sight-read. It is also super-easy to change the fingering (literally just push a button to move the note to the adjacent string).

                  Notation is very cumbersome to learn, in comparison. You have three separate clefs to memorize, as opposed to tab's stating the tuning and just working from there.


                  If the aim is to get a beginner up and running playing songs ASAP, then yes, especially since for most teens and adults, dexterity will come faster than reading ability.

                  But if a genie offered you equal proficiency in one or the other, I think you'd have to be crazy to choose tablature.

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                  • #39
                    I really, really like Guitar Pro. I've always learned by ear, and my notation reading skills are still pretty poor. I also find that if I learn a piece from notation, then I always need the music in front of me to play that piece. If I learn it by ear...I always remember it.

                    Guitar Pro is a really good way of sharing notation and tab with other players.
                    Originally Posted by Jimmy James


                    You're the British SAS of Metal.









                    Originally Posted by Phlat Phive


                    You're a man of refined taste and strong opinions.









                    Originally Posted by goodusername



                    Mosiddiqi is a prick, btw.



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                    • #40
                      If the aim is to get a beginner up and running playing songs ASAP, then yes, especially since for most teens and adults, dexterity will come faster than reading ability.

                      But if a genie offered you equal proficiency in one or the other, I think you'd have to be crazy to choose tablature.


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                      • #41
                        I'd try to trade in for a genie that wasn't so rubbish at granting wishes, actually


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                        • #42
                          I like Metallica more than Phish, but I voted Trey, Kirk's playing is what I like least about Metallica.
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                          • #43
                            I've never heard Anastasio. If I have, I can't remember a single thing about his playing. So, in that case, Hammett.


                            this is why I went with Anastasio, I figure he can't be worse...
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                            • #44
                              DdBob comes to mind...I'm sure they're others(Rickenvox?)


                              Sorry no. I do like the Dead though.

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                              • #45
                                Yeah, it's not even close as far as player ability goes. I like far more of Metallica's music though. From their debut up to the black album I can't really complain about how his playing worked within context of the music. The black album, however, started his decent into self caricature as a player though. Death Magnetic was a huge disappointment in regards to the return of the guitar solo in Metallica music. Some of it sounds like he's struggling and not in a good way.

                                Trey's a great player, but as much as I love improvised music, I have little use for Phish.

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