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    WTF happened?

    Don't take me seriously,unless you're offended....................bitch!Don't frickin' worry about it!.....its a "catch&release"plan

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    yer NOT helping

    Don't take me seriously,unless you're offended....................bitch!Don't frickin' worry about it!.....its a "catch&release"plan

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    • #3

      beginner01 wrote:

      WTF happened?


      change happened where you been?

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      • #4

        adaptation

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        • #5

          beginner01 wrote:

          WTF happened?


           

           

          What the hell do you think happened?  

          We've entered a Reality Distortion Field !    

          We're fukcing doomed !!!

           

           


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          • #6

            beginner01 wrote:

            WTF happened?




            Short summary:


            (1) Scott Lehman got tired of running the best musician's forum on the planet and sold it to Musician's Friend.


            (2) MF inexplicably decided after paying big bucks for an incredibly successful form with tens of thousands of users they tear it up, change it massively, and make it "better."


            (3) MF hired Anderton & Co. away from MusicPlayer.com to provide "rich media content," i.e. adverts, and thus the reign of the magazine people began.


            (4) The users mostly ignored the new rich media content as they only ever wanted tabs, honest user reviews, and the forums.  MF was not pleased.


            (5) MF resolved to force the users to look at the new content, which they deemed not possible using the old, reliable vBulletin software that most large forums use.   They were seduced by a **************** company called Jivesoft  (possibly the most accurately named company in internet history) and paid an undisclosed (large) sum of money to have Jive build them a new forum where the two parts of HC could be integrated.  They ignored the fact that Jive's forum software doesn't even work well on thier own website.


            (6) HC 2.0 was launched using Jive, first as a test environment only the moderators had access to.  We all screamed loudly and repeatedly that it was terrible (including Andertron) but MF IT decided to launch anyway.  The result was as terrible as expected and HC lost about 80% of its user base within a few days / weeks.   Most never returned.


            (7) Eventually, MF capitulated and returned HC to vBulletin, leaving the rich media content still on Jive despite the user review database having been rendered nearly inaccessible.  Users slowly trickled back in.


            (8) Bain Capital, the owners of GC and MF and Music 123 and thus also HC, laid off the Oregon division of MF which swept away what little IT support HC had and eventually also our MF liason guy who was quite smart and supportive.  


            (9) At this point, HC was like a nuclear reactor where all the technicians had been summarily fired.  The reactor continued running for a while as parameters slowly drifted until it melted down.  Spambots proliferated like rabbits at Chernobyl, the forum database corrupted and became excruciatingly slow until users began to leave in frustration.


            (10) Ignoring the obvious solution of buying some hardware and hiring a few people who knew how to make vB work, the owners continued to bs us that "HC is too large for vB" when anyone who took a moment to visit bigboards could see that much larger forums than HC were running fine on vB.  Finally the powers that be came to the realization that Jive sucks - a realization that most of us came to in a couple of days - and decided yet again to migrate to another inappropriate host, Lithium.


            (11) After struggling for more than a month, with most of transition team withdrawn to other projects that actually make money, here we are: the ragtag remnants of a once proud, prosperous community.  Our figurehead leader (who is actually the editor and content provider, having very little say in the decisions but nevertheless being vilified for every bad one) has resigned.


            (12) Where do we go from here?  That's up to you, the community.  My guess is MF will cut us loose in the classic business move of cutting the small expenses while ignoring the huge ones (e.g. Guitar Center's enormous debt service on Bain's strip mining of capital by leveraging GC's assets to borrow money they then pay themselves).   We'll see I guess.


            Terry D.

            Telling Stories releases 2nd CD, see our WEBSITE! Please check out my GROUPIE STORY and Tales from the Road.

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            • nice keetee
              nice keetee commented
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              rabbits @ chernobyl :cat:


            • J-E-M
              J-E-M commented
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              MrKnobs wrote:

              beginner01 wrote:

              WTF happened?


              Short summary:

              (1) Scott Lehman got tired of running the best musician's forum on the planet and sold it to Musician's Friend.

              (2) MF inexplicably decided after paying big bucks for an incredibly successful form with tens of thousands of users they tear it up, change it massively, and make it "better."

              (3) MF hired Anderton & Co. away from MusicPlayer.com to provide "rich media content," i.e. adverts, and thus the reign of the magazine people began.

              (4) The users mostly ignored the new rich media content as they only ever wanted tabs, honest user reviews, and the forums.  MF was not pleased.

              (5) MF resolved to force the users to look at the new content, which they deemed not possible using the old, reliable vBulletin software that most large forums use.   They were seduced by a **************** company called Jivesoft  (possibly the most accurately named company in internet history) and paid an undisclosed (large) sum of money to have Jive build them a new forum where the two parts of HC could be integrated.  They ignored the fact that Jive's forum software doesn't even work well on thier own website.

              (6) HC 2.0 was launched using Jive, first as a test environment only the moderators had access to.  We all screamed loudly and repeatedly that it was terrible (including Andertron) but MF IT decided to launch anyway.  The result was as terrible as expected and HC lost about 80% of its user base within a few days / weeks.   Most never returned.

              (7) Eventually, MF capitulated and returned HC to vBulletin, leaving the rich media content still on Jive despite the user review database having been rendered nearly inaccessible.  Users slowly trickled back in.

              (8) Bain Capital, the owners of GC and MF and Music 123 and thus also HC, laid off the Oregon division of MF which swept away what little IT support HC had and eventually also our MF liason guy who was quite smart and supportive.  

              (9) At this point, HC was like a nuclear reactor where all the technicians had been summarily fired.  The reactor continued running for a while as parameters slowly drifted until it melted down.  Spambots proliferated like rabbits at Chernobyl, the forum database corrupted and became excruciatingly slow until users began to leave in frustration.

              (10) Ignoring the obvious solution of buying some hardware and hiring a few people who knew how to make vB work, the owners continued to bs us that "HC is too large for vB" when anyone who took a moment to visit bigboards could see that much larger forums than HC were running fine on vB.  Finally the powers that be came to the realization that Jive sucks - a realization that most of us came to in a couple of days - and decided yet again to migrate to another inappropriate host, Lithium.

              (11) After struggling for more than a month, with most of transition team withdrawn to other projects that actually make money, here we are: the ragtag remnants of a once proud, prosperous community.  Our figurehead leader (who is actually the editor and content provider, having very little say in the decisions but nevertheless being vilified for every bad one) has resigned.

              (12) Where do we go from here?  That's up to you, the community.  My guess is MF will cut us loose in the classic business move of cutting the small expenses while ignoring the huge ones (e.g. Guitar Center's enormous debt service on Bain's strip mining of capital by leveraging GC's assets to borrow money they then pay themselves).   We'll see I guess.

              Terry D.


              This is high drama. When's the novel and movie coming out?


            • laker
              laker commented
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              MrKnobs wrote:

              beginner01 wrote:

              WTF happened?


              Short summary:

              (1) Scott Lehman got tired of running the best musician's forum on the planet and sold it to Musician's Friend.

              (2) MF inexplicably decided after paying big bucks for an incredibly successful form with tens of thousands of users they tear it up, change it massively, and make it "better."

              (3) MF hired Anderton & Co. away from MusicPlayer.com to provide "rich media content," i.e. adverts, and thus the reign of the magazine people began.

              (4) The users mostly ignored the new rich media content as they only ever wanted tabs, honest user reviews, and the forums.  MF was not pleased.

              (5) MF resolved to force the users to look at the new content, which they deemed not possible using the old, reliable vBulletin software that most large forums use.   They were seduced by a **************** company called Jivesoft  (possibly the most accurately named company in internet history) and paid an undisclosed (large) sum of money to have Jive build them a new forum where the two parts of HC could be integrated.  They ignored the fact that Jive's forum software doesn't even work well on thier own website.

              (6) HC 2.0 was launched using Jive, first as a test environment only the moderators had access to.  We all screamed loudly and repeatedly that it was terrible (including Andertron) but MF IT decided to launch anyway.  The result was as terrible as expected and HC lost about 80% of its user base within a few days / weeks.   Most never returned.

              (7) Eventually, MF capitulated and returned HC to vBulletin, leaving the rich media content still on Jive despite the user review database having been rendered nearly inaccessible.  Users slowly trickled back in.

              (8) Bain Capital, the owners of GC and MF and Music 123 and thus also HC, laid off the Oregon division of MF which swept away what little IT support HC had and eventually also our MF liason guy who was quite smart and supportive.  

              (9) At this point, HC was like a nuclear reactor where all the technicians had been summarily fired.  The reactor continued running for a while as parameters slowly drifted until it melted down.  Spambots proliferated like rabbits at Chernobyl, the forum database corrupted and became excruciatingly slow until users began to leave in frustration.

              (10) Ignoring the obvious solution of buying some hardware and hiring a few people who knew how to make vB work, the owners continued to bs us that "HC is too large for vB" when anyone who took a moment to visit bigboards could see that much larger forums than HC were running fine on vB.  Finally the powers that be came to the realization that Jive sucks - a realization that most of us came to in a couple of days - and decided yet again to migrate to another inappropriate host, Lithium.

              (11) After struggling for more than a month, with most of transition team withdrawn to other projects that actually make money, here we are: the ragtag remnants of a once proud, prosperous community.  Our figurehead leader (who is actually the editor and content provider, having very little say in the decisions but nevertheless being vilified for every bad one) has resigned.

              (12) Where do we go from here?  That's up to you, the community.  My guess is MF will cut us loose in the classic business move of cutting the small expenses while ignoring the huge ones (e.g. Guitar Center's enormous debt service on Bain's strip mining of capital by leveraging GC's assets to borrow money they then pay themselves).   We'll see I guess.

              Terry D.


              Good summary T...should be sticky'd













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