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    Trump Pentagon pick says its 'insane' for civilians to own semi-automatic weapons

    “I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used,” Winslow said. “I think that's an issue not as much for this committee, but elsewhere.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...ob-fb-enus-580

    I agree with this guy 100%!!!
    Roll Tide!!!!!

  • #2
    He's right.
    -------------------------------------------------------
    The emperor marched in the procession under the beautiful canopy, and all who saw him in the street and out of the windows exclaimed: Indeed, the emperor's new suit is incomparable! What a long train he has! How well it fits him! Nobody wished to let others know he saw nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office or too stupid. Never an emperor's clothes were more admired.

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    • #3
      The time to do something is long overdue. The perpetrators of these crimes with these weapons are evil.

      "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

      Edmund Burke

      tRump is NOT great, nor will history EVER say he was.

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      • #4
        He's a moron.

        Is he suggesting that nobody should own a standard .22 ranch rifle or a garden-variety pistol? Ridiculous.
        "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SteinbergerHack View Post
          He's a moron.

          Is he suggesting that nobody should own a standard .22 ranch rifle or a garden-variety pistol? Ridiculous.
          I agree with him...are you calling me a moron?
          Roll Tide!!!!!

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          • Phil O'Keefe
            Phil O'Keefe commented
            Editing a comment
            No, read what he said again. It's obvious he's calling Dean Winslow a moron, not you. It's obvious enough that you should have known exactly what he was saying, so your 'are you calling me a moron?' comment was an attempt to provoke him or try to get him banned. Please don't do that in the future. Next time you do, you might be the one who gets the ban...

        • #6
          That is the great thing about this country, we all have the right to speak our mind. Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing. Until the laws are changed we can all go back to work. Continue on.
          Happy Camper

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          • #7
            Originally posted by TrumpIsGreat View Post
            That is the great thing about this country, we all have the right to speak our mind. Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing. Until the laws are changed we can all go back to work. Continue on.
            Not so for those 84 people killed in Las Vegas and Texas by murderers wielding 'assault weapons' and the 8 killed by a terrorist driving a truck in New York.
            Last edited by Hoddy; 11-08-2017, 05:54 PM.
            Roll Tide!!!!!

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            • #8
              or the
              Every day in America, another 28 people die as a result of drunk driving crashes. That’s one person every 53 minutes.


              And your point is?
              Happy Camper

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              • #9
                Well, duh.

                They are pretty much a want, not a need.
                George Washington was the man who never told a lie. Richard Nixon was the man who never told the truth. Donald Trump is the man who doesn't know the difference.
                Venezuela is what happens when you have Trump without the Madison.

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                • #10
                  It will go for lefties how they think it will go, no doubt.

                  100 year old technology will be made obsolete.

                  Plus murder, drugs, and atheism will be made illegal.

                  That's sure to fix this n stuff.

                  Externality Trumps internality.

                  Fresh from 2017!

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Hoddy View Post

                    Not so for those 84 people killed in Las Vegas and Texas by murderers wielding 'assault weapons' and the 8 killed by a terrorist driving a truck in New York.


                    Treated 2 now from Vegas.

                    Californians who raced home.

                    Tell me all bout it son.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Hoddy View Post

                      I agree with him...are you calling me a moron?
                      Roughly half of all firearms sold in the US today are semi-auto. The vast majority are never used in a crime.

                      This piec in the New York Times explains it fairly well, and does so with data, not emotion-laden rhetoric.

                      https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/1...apon-myth.html

                      Now, to really cap it off, it might be worthwhile to see if a semi-auto involved in a violent incident makes a difference. As it turns out, it does not. In the study referenced below, you will find that in the real world there is no difference in the severity or number of wounds from semi-auto (pistols) vs. non-semi-auto (revolvers), nor is there a difference in the mortality rate. The authors of the study clearly were not happy with the fact that the actual data did not support their intent, but nevertheless they published the study.

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...v009p00151.pdf

                      [T]he key mechanism for a semiautomatic weaponry effect is the number of wounds—that is, does the higher number of shots fired in pistol cases increase the likelihood that gunshot victims will suffer multiple wounds, thereby making it more likely that the victims will die? Table 2 (right panel) contrasts the number of gunshot wounds sustained by victims in pistol and revolver cases. Although a higher percentage of pistol victims sustained multiple wounds (24.3% to 20% for pistol and revolver victims, respectively), the average number of wounds for pistol victims (1.44) was actually lower than that for revolver victims (1.50). However, neither of these differences was statistically significant. Therefore, we would not expect victims shot with pistols to die more frequently than victims shot with revolvers, holding gun caliber, wound location, the victim’s physical condition, and other relevant factors constant.
                      [...]
                      Gun attackers using pistols tend to fire more shots than attackers using revolvers. This shot differential does not appear to influence the probability that an incident will result in injury or death, nor the number of wounds sustained by gunshot victims.
                      There is no such corresponding study for rifles, because the number of crimes committed with rifles of all types is statistically insignificant.

                      Now, what is the appropriate term to use for someone who ignores data and evidence, and allows fear and emotion to override logic?
                      Last edited by SteinbergerHack; 11-09-2017, 05:23 AM.
                      "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Davo-tpL_q View Post
                        It will go for lefties how they think it will go, no doubt.

                        100 year old technology will be made obsolete.

                        Plus murder, drugs, and atheism will be made illegal.

                        That's sure to fix this n stuff.

                        Externality Trumps internality.

                        Fresh from 2017!


                        Is this what passes for logic in your world?

                        Take a deep breath son.

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                        • RogueGnome
                          RogueGnome commented
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                          I know. I read that carefully crafted, articulate post and just face-palmed.
                          Compelling and cogent. Powerful and persuasive.

                          davo gonna davo.

                      • #14
                        Given that the guy is a retired Air Force colonel, I have to believe that he knows all about semi-automatic weapons and how common they are. I sincerely doubt he is out to grab them all. It seems more likely that he meant what he said, which is that he questions the ready availability of semi-automatics "like the AR-15." Not so long ago, that was a bi-partisan position.

                        Recently, a former Texas Ranger and law enforcement spokesperson referred to the Ruger AR used at San Antonio as an "assault type weapon" and nobody pooped their pants like they normally do.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Zooey View Post
                          Given that the guy is a retired Air Force colonel, I have to believe that he knows all about semi-automatic weapons and how common they are. I sincerely doubt he is out to grab them all. It seems more likely that he meant what he said, which is that he questions the ready availability of semi-automatics "like the AR-15." Not so long ago, that was a bi-partisan position.

                          Recently, a former Texas Ranger and law enforcement spokesperson referred to the Ruger AR used at San Antonio as an "assault type weapon" and nobody pooped their pants like they normally do.
                          Please define precisely what features and/or performance characteristics define "assault type weapon".
                          Last edited by SteinbergerHack; 11-09-2017, 04:33 PM.
                          "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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