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  • How about that Kevin Spacey?

    One minute, he's a twice-Academy Award winner starring in a top-rated Netflix series, the next minute (after several sexual abuse allegations, including one from a then-teen boy)...







  • #2
    Republican or democrat?
    Roll Tide!!!!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hoddy View Post
      Republican or democrat?
      Does it matter?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hoddy View Post
        Republican or democrat?

        I'm a Democrat/Independent.

        Why do you ask?

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          Originally posted by Hoddy View Post
          Republican or democrat?
          sexual aggressor
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          • #6
            It's 'rock star syndrome' where some people with a high degree of celebrity find it easy and acceptable to take advantage of others.
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            from the deepest hell to the highest states.

            It is up to you which one you choose to explore
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            • #7
              Originally posted by onelife View Post
              It's 'rock star syndrome' where some people with a high degree of celebrity find it easy and acceptable to take advantage of others.
              Except in my experience the people being hit on are more likely to welcome it when the attention is coming from the rock stars (although certainly not all the time) - the old fat entertainment executives think that because they have money, power and influence and can help make or break careers they should be as desirable as the rock stars, so they try to act accordingly, and repulse people in the process with their unwanted advances.
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              • #8
                As far as Kevin Spacey is concerned, I think he's a fantastic actor - he was excellent in The Usual Suspects... but apparently he's a pretty terrible human being.
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                - George Carlin

                "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

                - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
                  Except in my experience the people being hit on are more likely to welcome it when the attention is coming from the rock stars (although certainly not all the time) - the old fat entertainment executives think that because they have money, power and influence and can help make or break careers they should be as desirable as the rock stars, so they try to act accordingly, and repulse people in the process with their unwanted advances.
                  The way I see it, welcoming attention from rock stars is often perceived as a fantasy come true - which is just part of the fantasy - so it's still exploitation as far as I'm concerned.

                  I wasn't a very nice person in my twenties and hurt a lot of people along the way while taking advantage of my situation.
                  As a human being, you come with the whole range of inner possibilities
                  from the deepest hell to the highest states.

                  It is up to you which one you choose to explore
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post

                    Except in my experience the people being hit on are more likely to welcome it when the attention is coming from the rock stars (although certainly not all the time) - the old fat entertainment executives think that because they have money, power and influence and can help make or break careers they should be as desirable as the rock stars, so they try to act accordingly, and repulse people in the process with their unwanted advances.
                    Are you actually saying that some “welcome” sexual harassment from attractive people, but not from unattractive people?

                    LOL. Seriously?



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                    Last edited by bluzboy; 11-04-2017, 11:10 AM.

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                    • onelife
                      onelife commented
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                      I can't speak for Phil but I don't believe he's saying that.

                      I think it's more about 'groupies' welcoming attention from someone they are infatuated with.


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                      Last edited by onelife; 11-04-2017, 11:18 AM.

                    • bluzboy
                      bluzboy commented
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                      As far as I can tell, Spacey is not such an unattractive man. He’s certainly rich and famous, and he’s not fat, either.

                      What do you suppose went wrong then?

                    • bluzboy
                      bluzboy commented
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                      OTOH, Ted Nugent allegedly boasts about his sexual exploitation of minors. So, I guess if you’re going to be a sexual predator, it helps to be a suck-a$$, right-wing musician.

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                    Terrible actors that never convince me on screen that they just aren't actors needing to go back to school. Hollywood hasn't filmed any realistic acting in years. I don't care one bit about their private lives until they start taking advantage of other people for their private little pleasures. Treat them like any other pervert.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
                      As far as Kevin Spacey is concerned, I think he's a fantastic actor - he was excellent in The Usual Suspects... but apparently he's a pretty terrible human being.
                      What he is accused of cannot be justified. But, I was hearing some things about his upbringing. Truly terrible. His father was crazy. I'm sure this somehow plays into it. Too bad.

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                      • onelife
                        onelife commented
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                        ... not justified but perhaps understood...

                        Adverse childhood experience certainly plays a strong role in shaping people's behaviour as adults.

                      • Phil O'Keefe
                        Phil O'Keefe commented
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                        Lots of people have horrible childhoods and suffer abuse without in turn perpetuating that abuse on others themselves. I can certainly understand and sympathize with anyone who has gone through abuse or neglect in their childhood, but it doesn't justify them doing the same things themselves as adults.

                      • onelife
                        onelife commented
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                        I agree, it is not justifiable, but it is often difficult for people who suffered adverse childhood experince to understand their problems enough to get the help they need to get past them.

                        Sometimes it takes a crisis such as getting arrested for them to be able to take the first steps towards healing. Many people can function at a high level in society, even though they were once victims themselves, so their problems go unnoticed.

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                      1. Love Spacey as an actor but I wouldn’t begin to make excuses for his actions. Especially since his primary accuser was 14 at the time (when Spacey was 26)

                      2. It seems everyone who ever got hit on when they didn’t want to by a powerful person is coming forward now. This is probably a good thing in the long run (people will be much more careful about such things in future) but some of the stuff that is making headlines lately seem like they maybe they weren’t really THAT big a deal?

                      3). Yeah, celebrities probably feel a certain— if not “entitlement” — that they can get away be being a bit “bolder”, for lack of a better word.

                      4) I was never a “rock star” but certainly I took advantage of what little status and celebrity I DID have back in the day and did some things that would be frowned upon now. I’m certainly not proud of this and hope no one was ever actually hurt by what seemed to me at the time to be innocuous.

                      5) no males should do this stuff, but haven’t most of us been guilty of pushing ourselves too hard on a girl who wasn’t really interested? Especially if one or both have been drinking? I dunno. Maybe it IS more of a “rock star” thing?

                      6). Times are changing. Make sure your advances are VERY “PG” unless and until you know for sure they are welcome. And no means no. Regardless of who you are, who she is, and how far along things may have already proceeded.
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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
                        As far as Kevin Spacey is concerned, I think he's a fantastic actor - he was excellent in The Usual Suspects... but apparently he's a pretty terrible human being.
                        Like everyone, he probably has his pluses and minuses. I assume he grew up wanting what he thought the kid would want. So he jumped on him. In a strange way it could have been an honest, hormone-driven mistake, a bad mistake. But that's giving a bunch of benefit of the doubt. After all, as far as I know, he backed off when the kid said no. Is that what happened? It's not like this is high on my list of concerns. I had an older man make a move on me once when I was around 16. I said no. End of story. Everyone can say no. Rape is another thing altogether. And so is minors. But there are far worse people than Kevin Spacey. Yawn.
                        Last edited by Hoot Owl; 11-04-2017, 11:34 AM.
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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by bluzboy View Post
                          How about that Kevin Spacey?

                          One minute, he's a twice-Academy Award winner starring in a top-rated Netflix series, the next minute (after several sexual abuse allegations, including one from a then-teen boy)...


                          To quote the tagline of an old TV game show, ''It's not what you say that counts, it's what you don't say.''
                          This is no different from a pedophile cleric who preaches God, Sin and Eternal Damnation in church
                          and screws the altar boys after the services.
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