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  • #16
    Originally posted by guido61 View Post

    No it doesn't make sense. If your boss doesn't care if you break a rule then it makes no difference.
    Well, it makes no difference to your boss.

    How about the customers?

    Who are the customers of the torch carriers?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
      It makes complete sense. It's why the police officers were chastized for being photographed like this WHILE IN UNIFORM. When you are "on the clock" you represent your organization. This is akin to the old joke, "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out". Except this is not funny. People go to a football game to watch football. They turn on the news to watch neo nazis and antifa act stupid. And regarding the players AND NFL agreeing, that just makes it worse.

      This is why it is leaving a mark and will almost certainly leave a much bigger one by season's end.

      Back in early 2015 I started saying "things are getting intereting". By the end of the year I was saying, "as interesting as this year was, next year will be a LOT more interesting." I now just say it at the end of every year. And it seems to be growing exponentially.

      i.e. just wait'll next year. A lot of things are coming to a head here and there. Some big, some small. but there does seem to be something really big on the horizon. This can't go on forever. It eventually reaches critical mass.We are clearly in a "cold" civil war right now.
      Yep, impeachment proceedings.
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      Originally posted by Grumpy_Polecat View Post
      For the record: Hitler using gas to exterminate his presumed enemies does not equal the use of chemical weapons.
      Reprehensible as it was, gassing was a conventional and accepted method for execution at the time. It is a stretch to equivocate the two.

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      • arcadesonfire
        arcadesonfire commented
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        No no no, E-money. The big thing on the horizon is Obama suspending elections and declaring himself emperor for all eternity.

      • E-money
        E-money commented
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        Thanks for reminding me of that prediction arcadesonfire.

        Great blast from the past!

    • #18
      Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
      It's a formality. It's just a part of nationalism. It's a little thing that every reasonable person in a country can agree on.
      Which have nothing to do with sports.
      Well, it used to be. And THAT is the core problem. It will have to play out.
      Actually we only started playing the national anthem at sporting events in the 30s and 40s.

      BTW, there is nothing about the national anthem in the NFL rule book. It's a policy, not a rule. Your right wing blog is misleading you.
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      • #19
        Originally posted by guido61 View Post

        Which have nothing to do with sports.
        No, it doesn't.

        We also didn't always put "In God We Trust" on our money. And there has not "Always been baseball", regardless of the quote from "Field of Dreams."

        But for a country to survive, some sort of nationalism is in order, hence the tradition at sporting events. Even Little League.

        You do point out what many conservatives have been saying about this: This whole thing is really about eliminating the national anthem and the flag being displayed at games. It is another chess piece that must be moved to their goal of globalism. American nationalists have about had it, as is demonstrated by the response to this.

        Get out your popcorn because the show has just begun.
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        • #20
          Originally posted by guido61 View Post

          BTW, there is nothing about the national anthem in the NFL rule book. It's a policy, not a rule. Your right wing blog is misleading you.
          No. And Time is not a right wing blog. It's not misleading me. I saw the repetition of the word "should", but also saw what followed it. And I didn't get it from a blog. it's right there in the game operations manual. Think of it as speeding. It's against the rules, but you may just get a warning.

          Who this matters to is the fans. But the text within the manual certainly justifies Trumps "they should be fired" rant.


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          • #21
            Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
            Right wingers tend to not boycott. They just change their individual behavior. Just ask Target.
            Oh, really? Tell us more, Rob.

            For example, this right-wing boycott ended up lasting two years:

            AFA launches Ford boycott over advertisingDETROIT (Reuters) — A conservative Christian group has launched a boycott of Ford (F), saying the automaker had reneged on a pledge to drop its advertising in gay publications and support of gay rights groups
            https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/mone...ford-afa_x.htm
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            • #22
              Originally posted by E-money View Post
              I think Grace Slick said it best when she sang "I'd rather have my country die for me".
              So would Donald Trump and most of the self-proclaimed "patriots" who support him.
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              • #23
                Originally posted by Fred Fartboski View Post

                Oh, really? Tell us more, Rob.

                For example, this right-wing boycott ended up lasting two years:

                AFA launches Ford boycott over advertisingDETROIT (Reuters) — A conservative Christian group has launched a boycott of Ford (F), saying the automaker had reneged on a pledge to drop its advertising in gay publications and support of gay rights groups
                https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/mone...ford-afa_x.htm
                Must have been a terrible boycott because I never heard of it.

                I know the "reverse boycott" regarding Chick-fil-a was a whopping success, though I didn't see it as a boycott either. It was just individuals supporting a business that stood for their principles - and prooving which side was the majority. Oh, and it was a response to the utterly failed boycott of the left.

                The left boycotts. The left sees everyone as a member of a group. The left believes you only have power in a group. The left is about identity politics.

                The right is about the individual and the rights of the individual. They act as individuals.They do have events but they are few and far between because, at the end of the day, are basically just big tailgate parties, and leave a lot less trash.
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                • #24
                  Originally posted by guido61 View Post
                  Actually we only started playing the national anthem at sporting events in the 30s and 40s.
                  Maybe that's because the national anthem has only officially been the national anthem since 1931.

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                  • #25
                    More on topic fun:
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                    • #26
                      Another fun one:
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                      • #27
                        And finally, this below. My point in all this? Our country is, in fact, in a cold civil war.
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                        • #28
                          Originally posted by The Badger View Post

                          So would Donald Trump and most of the self-proclaimed "patriots" who support him.
                          I'm certainly not seeing that in the trump supporters I've talked to. In fact, I'd say that, if anything, they think it DID die (or was at least close to death) and they are trying to bring it back to life.
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                          • #29
                            And then there were these boycotts by America's largest right-wing group:

                            One Million Moms (1MM), a division of the American Family Association, launched a boycott against Roseanne Barr’s reboot after reports suggested that one of Roseanne’s grandchildren in the show may be gender fluid.
                            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0cdc7732ff0c1

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                            As Right Wing Watch and Towleroad are reporting, One Million Moms has threatened Toys ‘R’ Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carrying the controversial Archie comics issue featuring the wedding of Kevin Keller, an openly gay character.
                            The group — a division of the American Family Association — writes on its website:
                            These comic books are sold at the front checkout counters so they are highly visible to employees, managers, customers and children. Unfortunately, children are now being exposed to same-sex marriage in a toy store. This is the last place a parent would expect to be confronted with questions from their children on topics that are too complicated for them to understand. Issues of this nature are being introduced too early and too soon, which is becoming extremely common and unnecessary.
                            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1307689.html

                            But, as you say Rob, "right-wingers tend not to boycott".
                            Last edited by Fred Fartboski; 09-27-2017, 09:52 AM.
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                            • #30
                              Originally posted by Fred Fartboski View Post
                              And then there were these boycotts by America's largest right-wing group:

                              One Million Moms (1MM), a division of the American Family Association, launched a boycott against Roseanne Barr’s reboot after reports suggested that one of Roseanne’s grandchildren in the show may be gender fluid.
                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0cdc7732ff0c1

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                              As Right Wing Watch and Towleroad are reporting, One Million Moms has threatened Toys ‘R’ Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carrying the controversial Archie comics issue featuring the wedding of Kevin Keller, an openly gay character.
                              The group — a division of the American Family Association — writes on its website:
                              These comic books are sold at the front checkout counters so they are highly visible to employees, managers, customers and children. Unfortunately, children are now being exposed to same-sex marriage in a toy store. This is the last place a parent would expect to be confronted with questions from their children on topics that are too complicated for them to understand. Issues of this nature are being introduced too early and too soon, which is becoming extremely common and unnecessary.
                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1307689.html

                              But, as you say Rob, "right-wingers tend not to boycott".
                              Hmmm. Looks like boycotts really DON'T work.

                              That's not a very big list, BTW. i.e. it's anecdotal. You can ALWAYS find a few people or groups that do all sorts of stuff. But boycotting is not something the right sees as very productive, unless it is a "universal" issue, when everyone wants to boycott, kind of like what this NFL thing is turning into.

                              BTW, it gets worse for the NFL and the players. Looks like trump just may have some teeth to bare and apply in this.
                              https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...all-of-them%2F
                              Last edited by RobRoy; 09-27-2017, 10:12 AM.
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