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  • Why the rush to repeal The Affordable Care Act?

    other than throwing red-meat to his base STILL suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome, who stands to gain if it is repealed?


    Why not take a bipartisan look at it, and fix what isnt working, keep the good stuff?

    The vast majority of US citizens are not in favor of repeal, especially considering the weak alternatives the GOP has thrown together. Why is the GOP so feverishly working in opposition to what the people want??

  • #2
    The GOP is trying to push their version through by September 30th, because on that date the deadline passes for budget reconciliation bills. Budget reconciliation bills only require a simple majority.

    After the deadline all bills will require a 60 vote procedural vote to overcome any filibuster.

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    • #3
      Republicans over and over said they had a plan in place and would repeal. Once the big day came, these idiots said "oh it's real now" and punked out.

      They told Trump repeatedly repeal and replace we're ready.

      The fact that the republicans botched this is not on Trump it is on all the members of the Republican Congress especially the Senate and John McCain, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

      That's ok, hope y'all get re-elected.

      John McCain retire already.

      and Trump still remains President of the United States

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BA.Barcolounger View Post
        The GOP is trying to push their version through by September 30th, because on that date the deadline passes for budget reconciliation bills. Budget reconciliation bills only require a simple majority.

        After the deadline all bills will require a 60 vote procedural vote to overcome any filibuster.
        ah, thank you

        cant trump just over ride the deadline- at this point, he thinks he's the boy king, so,,,,,,


        i guess another way of phrasing the title would have been, 'why cant the gop wait until they come up something that the people want, before they pass a something that is a step backwards, that the majority dont want?'

        Is this more personal and petty, as in the gop is set on destroying Obama's legacy - or more financial and some players stand to win big?

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        • #5
          it just seems weird that the GOP is working so hard at accomplishing something that the majority of Americans clearly do not want.

          Imagine if they worked this hard getting cannabis off of the schedule 1 narcotics list, and allowed new industries to legally flourish
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          • #6
            Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
            Republicans over and over said they had a plan in place and would repeal. Once the big day came, these idiots said "oh it's real now" and punked out.

            They told Trump repeatedly repeal and replace we're ready.

            The fact that the republicans botched this is not on Trump it is on ....
            It's never Trumps fault. Never ever.

            Trump has claimed repeatedly to have an awesome plan - one that covered everyone and was cheaper, to boot. He never provided details, submitted it to congress, or was able to answer the simplest of questions about it.

            This is on him.

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            • #7
              Maybe because the ACA sucks...then again everything the repubs have offered is worse.
              Roll Tide!!!!!

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              • #8
                Because, and I'll tell you why, Congressional GOP members got their asses handed to them at home during the August recess by their own base for not doing what they have been promising to do for years. And they were told that if they aren't going to do it then they will elect someone who will.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
                  Republicans over and over said they had a plan in place and would repeal. Once the big day came, these idiots said "oh it's real now" and punked out.

                  They told Trump repeatedly repeal and replace we're ready.

                  The fact that the republicans botched this is not on Trump it is on all the members of the Republican Congress especially the Senate and John McCain, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

                  That's ok, hope y'all get re-elected.

                  John McCain retire already.

                  and Trump still remains President of the United States

                  Democrats +1
                  Republicans -1
                  Where's Trump's plan? Even though they're the executives, presidents often come in with policy plans that they give to their party in congress. Trump said on the campaign that under his plan 'everybody would have coverage.'

                  What plan did he have in mind? Do you want to see universal health care? Would You call your representatives and senators (if they're Republicans) and ask them to talk to Trump about his specific plan to bring about this coverage of everybody? Please!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
                    Republicans over and over said they had a plan in place and would repeal. Once the big day came, these idiots said "oh it's real now" and punked out.

                    They told Trump repeatedly repeal and replace we're ready. . . .
                    I don't believe that's true. The Republicans were always about repeal, not repeal and replace. Trump promised that and backed them into a corner. The only Republican alternative I heard much about before this year came from Bobby Jindal back in 2014 (https://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaugh...-jindals-plan/) but it never got much traction. Trump is the one who said he had a plan, so where is it?
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                    • #11
                      Doent matter any more. Susan Collins just announced she's a "no".

                      The bill is dead.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post
                        Why the rush to repeal The Affordable Care Act?


                        other than throwing red-meat to his base STILL suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome, who stands to gain if it is repealed?


                        Why not take a bipartisan look at it, and fix what isnt working, keep the good stuff?

                        The vast majority of US citizens are not in favor of repeal, especially considering the weak alternatives the GOP has thrown together. Why is the GOP so feverishly working in opposition to what the people want??
                        The rush is on because the Republicans promised to kill Obamacare, and after our dozen tries, they still haven't managed it. Now their "base" are getting restive. The "Republican Leadership" is afraid they'll have to do some real work -- including compromising with the evil-bad Democratic party or lose their jobs. Mind you, they'll blame Trump for that, with good reason, but still...
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                        • #13
                          All the latest polls show less than 1/4 of Americans support the GOP bill.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
                            Republicans over and over said they had a plan in place and would repeal. Once the big day came, these idiots said "oh it's real now" and punked out.

                            They told Trump repeatedly repeal and replace we're ready.

                            The fact that the republicans botched this is not on Trump it is on all the members of the Republican Congress especially the Senate and John McCain, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

                            That's ok, hope y'all get re-elected.

                            John McCain retire already.

                            and Trump still remains President of the United States

                            Democrats +1
                            Republicans -1
                            from http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/24/politi...ses/index.html

                            Trump promised he would cover all americans. Trump promised the government would pay for it. Why would he make those promises if he didn't even have a plan, and expected the Congress to do everything?

                            "Trump repeatedly promised that he would cover all Americans when given the chance to repeal and replace Obamacare. He stated that coverage for everyone was "​just human decency" back in February of 2016. By then, he had already promised universal coverage. When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that "everybody's got to be covered." He conceded that it may be an "un-Republican" thing to say, but he wanted to ensure that everyone had quality health care.
                            "​I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not," Trump said. He added: "​The government's gonna pay for it."
                            More recently, as president-elect, Trump reiterated his support for the idea in January.
                            "We're going to have insurance for everybody," he said in an interview with The Washington Post. "There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by arcadesonfire View Post

                              Where's Trump's plan? Even though they're the executives, presidents often come in with policy plans that they give to their party in congress. Trump said on the campaign that under his plan 'everybody would have coverage.'

                              What plan did he have in mind? Do you want to see universal health care? Would You call your representatives and senators (if they're Republicans) and ask them to talk to Trump about his specific plan to bring about this coverage of everybody? Please!
                              Trump doesn't have a plan. Never had a plan.
                              Trump only wanted a win.
                              WIN. WIN. WIN.
                              That's all he focused on.
                              It's like a slot machine or the blackjack table.
                              The 'how' or 'why' is not important to him.
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