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  • #46
    Jarad is not Secretary Of State, he's also not getting paid. I don't think Steve Bannon was either.

    Hey notice good girl Ivanka followed the rules? mmmmmmmm Ivanka

    Pribus I believe was on salary so a couple or raps on the knuckles for him. He's also been FIRED.
    Last edited by epi56ebony; 09-26-2017, 02:57 PM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rbstern View Post

      If it is, it will be unjustified, unless:

      1) Emails containing state secrets were sent, received, and/or forwarded.

      2) The private email server was kept in a private residence closet, and not actively monitored for hacking activity.
      I would not be surprised if these chumps were using Hotmail or CompuServe.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
        Jarad is not Secretary Of State, he's also not getting paid. I don't think Steve Bannon was either.

        Hey notice good girl Ivanka followed the rules? mmmmmmmm Ivanka

        Pribus I believe was on salary so a couple or raps on the knuckles for him. He's also been FIRED.
        Are you sure about Ivanka? Might want to read this...

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-tr...160643521.html
        Never trust anyone who has to say "Believe me" at the end of a sentence.

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        • epi56ebony
          epi56ebony commented
          Editing a comment
          oops my baaaaad. i had read she didn't send private emails. Oh well still on Team Ivanka and that article was fake news
          Last edited by epi56ebony; 09-26-2017, 11:45 PM.

      • #49
        Originally posted by BadDaddy View Post
        While I'm certainly not an networking expert, I have interfaced with government servers weekly for over 20 years, and have had my system analyzed and secured by a few IT engineers, so I'm pretty familiar with how it works. Also, the physical location of a server has absolutely no effect on how secure a system is, as they are compromised electronically and not physically, though as the private server Hillary used was originally installed for former President Bill Clinton when he left office, and he and Hillary receives 24/7 secret service protection I'm guessing the hardware was safe.
        OK, so you're not even close to being an expert.

        Physical location of a server DOES matter. HRC's server, in a typical residential neighborhood, with low security telco switching equipment, typically in above ground service boxes, with ordinary residential transmission infrastructure. If a telco guy can roll up in a service truck and open a street cabinet and access the circuits, so can a foreign agent.

        Secure data centers have underground feeds that are far less physically accessible. Tampering those lines is also more likely to bring immediate scrutiny from engineers who get alerts when network routes are disrupted.

        Even Pagliano, the IT guy who set up her server, told the FBI he felt the server belonged in a data center due to the security issues. He was overruled by one of the HRC political critters who felt physical control of the server was paramount. Hmmm. Wonder why?

        Instead of posting a comment about 1000's of classified emails that Hillary was supposed to have had on her private server, why not read the transcripts of the testimony that FBI Director James Comey gave while under oath
        Is Comey now considered reliable? What week is this?

        The facts are that when it was first determined that three former Secretaries of State (Powell, Rice, & Clinton) had used private non government secured servers to conduct government business, and that when the government requested copies of all work related emails from the three, and that despite that Hillary Clinton was the only one of the three that complied by providing 55,000 pages of emails, that she was the only one of the three that was investigated, why was that?
        Powell and Rice were using commercial accounts on professionally run infrastructure. And if somebody want's to subpoena them and do an investigation, have at it. They should be held accountable, too.
        Last edited by rbstern; 09-26-2017, 04:31 PM.

        Current global warming temperature trend: 0.05ºC per decade, plus or minus 0.1ºC (source: UN IPCC AR5) ...Yes, the error rate is higher than the estimated rate of change.

        "Anthropogenic global warming is a proposed theory whose basic mechanism is well understood, but whose magnitude is highly uncertain. The growing evidence that climate models are too sensitive to CO2 has implications for the attribution of late-20th-century warming and projections of 21st-century climate. If the recent warming hiatus is caused by natural variability, then this raises the question as to what extent the warming between 1975 and 2000 can also be explained by natural climate variability." --Dr. Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology

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        • #50
          Originally posted by BA.Barcolounger View Post
          I would not be surprised if these chumps were using Hotmail or CompuServe.
          Powell used AOL.
          Originally posted by nedezero1;
          Good. More lib fake news correspondents need to be assaulted when they get too pushy.
          http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/...nches-reporter


          The emails giveth and the emails taketh away

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          • #51
            Originally posted by rbstern View Post

            OK, so you're not even close to being an expert.

            Physical location of a server DOES matter. HRC's server, in a typical residential neighborhood, with low security telco switching equipment, typically in above ground service boxes, with ordinary residential transmission infrastructure. If a telco guy can roll up in a service truck and open a street cabinet and access the circuits, so can a foreign agent.

            Secure data centers have underground feeds that are far less physically accessible. Tampering those lines is also more likely to bring immediate scrutiny from engineers who get alerts when network routes are disrupted.

            Even Pagliano, the IT guy who set up her server, told the FBI he felt the server belonged in a data center due to the security issues. He was overruled by one of the HRC political critters who felt physical control of the server was paramount. Hmmm. Wonder why?



            Is Comey now considered reliable? What week is this?



            Powell and Rice were using commercial accounts on professionally run infrastructure. And if somebody want's to subpoena them and do an investigation, have at it. They should be held accountable, too.
            How many server accounts are physically hacked as opposed to being electronically hacked? Also, as none of the emails found on Hillary's server were found to have been marked as classified as is required by Federal law, it's obvious that she was receiving her classified materials through another secured account, not to mention that I find it ironic that no one seems at all interested in who sent classified materials to a none government email address. I have been logging onto government accounts for over 20 years, and it's apparent that your sending or receiving information through government accounts.

            Are you sure that a former President's phone and email lines are shared with neighborhood switching without any additional security?

            The facts are that Hillary Clinton didn't violate any laws and that none of the materials on her server were marked as classified, and unlike Powell or Rice, she cooperated with the government, yet she was the only one of the three that was a Democrat, and was the only one of the three that was investigated. It was nothing but a continuation of the GOP fueled hate/smear campaign against a Clinton, and had nothing to do with National security or the rule of law.

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            • #52
              Originally posted by harrycox1 View Post
              Powell used AOL.
              And it got hacked.

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              • #53
                Originally posted by harrycox1 View Post

                Powell used AOL.

                William Henry Seward used telegraph!!!

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                • #54
                  Originally posted by willhaven View Post
                  And it got hacked.
                  And he sent classified information through AOL.
                  Originally posted by nedezero1;
                  Good. More lib fake news correspondents need to be assaulted when they get too pushy.
                  http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/...nches-reporter


                  The emails giveth and the emails taketh away

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                • #55
                  Originally posted by BadDaddy View Post
                  How many server accounts are physically hacked as opposed to being electronically hacked?
                  That's irrelevant. What is relevant is whether or not it is grossly negligent to set up a situation that allowed the hacking to happen.

                  Also, as none of the emails found on Hillary's server were found to have been marked as classified as is required by Federal law, it's obvious that she was receiving her classified materials through another secured account, not to mention that I find it ironic that no one seems at all interested in who sent classified materials to a none government email address. I have been logging onto government accounts for over 20 years, and it's apparent that your sending or receiving information through government accounts.

                  18 U.S. Code § 793 Section F: Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
                  Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


                  Originally posted by BadDaddy View Post
                  Are you sure that a former President's phone and email lines are shared with neighborhood switching without any additional security?
                  No, I'm not, but I seriously doubt it. HRC would have highlighted that in her defense.

                  Originally posted by BadDaddy View Post
                  The facts are that Hillary Clinton didn't violate any laws and that none of the materials on her server were marked as classified
                  See above reference.



                  Current global warming temperature trend: 0.05ºC per decade, plus or minus 0.1ºC (source: UN IPCC AR5) ...Yes, the error rate is higher than the estimated rate of change.

                  "Anthropogenic global warming is a proposed theory whose basic mechanism is well understood, but whose magnitude is highly uncertain. The growing evidence that climate models are too sensitive to CO2 has implications for the attribution of late-20th-century warming and projections of 21st-century climate. If the recent warming hiatus is caused by natural variability, then this raises the question as to what extent the warming between 1975 and 2000 can also be explained by natural climate variability." --Dr. Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology

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                  • #56
                    Originally posted by epi56ebony View Post
                    Jarad is not Secretary Of State, he's also not getting paid. I don't think Steve Bannon was either.

                    Hey notice good girl Ivanka followed the rules? mmmmmmmm Ivanka

                    Pribus I believe was on salary so a couple or raps on the knuckles for him. He's also been FIRED.
                    please explain what getting paid has to do with it.
                    The man is a billionaire. He works in the WH.
                    He's a Senior Adviser to the President.
                    To you I'm an atheist; but to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.

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                    • #57
                      Originally posted by RogueGnome View Post
                      please explain what getting paid has to do with it.
                      The man is a billionaire. He works in the WH.
                      He's a Senior Adviser to the President.
                      But he's a Republican. I suppose that's the difference. He KNEW what happened to Hillarity and he did essentially the same thing. Apparently he too thinks the rules are different for Redumblicans

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                      • #58
                        Originally posted by rbstern View Post

                        That's irrelevant. What is relevant is whether or not it is grossly negligent to set up a situation that allowed the hacking to happen.

                        Also, as none of the emails found on Hillary's server were found to have been marked as classified as is required by Federal law, it's obvious that she was receiving her classified materials through another secured account, not to mention that I find it ironic that no one seems at all interested in who sent classified materials to a none government email address. I have been logging onto government accounts for over 20 years, and it's apparent that your sending or receiving information through government accounts.

                        18 U.S. Code § 793 Section F: Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
                        Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.




                        No, I'm not, but I seriously doubt it. HRC would have highlighted that in her defense.



                        See above reference.

                        FBI Director James Comey testified before a Congressional Committee on 7/07/16 that it would not have been reasonable for anyone in Hillary Clinton's position with her training to have thought that any of the information on her server was classified, which pretty much sums it up.

                        Look, if when it was first determined that three former Secretaries of State (Powell, Rice, & Clinton) had used private, non government secured servers to conduct government business, and that the FBI decided to investigate the three of them, I would have agreed with that decision, but they decided to only investigate the only one of the three that had cooperated by providing 55,000 pages of emails, and the only one of the three that was a Democrat that was considered a potential candidate for the Presidency.

                        The FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton's using a private server was a GOP fueled witch hunt that was conducted to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming President, and had nothing whatsoever to do with National security or the rule of law.

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                        • #59
                          It all makes sense now. Jared has been voting as a female for the last 8 years. If he goes to jail he can self identify as a woman and get sent to a women's prison

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                          • #60
                            Originally posted by slodge View Post
                            Oh Noes, Jared! You've got jail!

                            http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-house-243071

                            I wonder if this will arouse the outrage of the right.

                            Just kidding. I know the answer to that.
                            It might, if Kushner were a Democrat. But since he's Trump's son-in-law and all...

                            Originally posted by -Ed Phobes- View Post
                            They didn't really care when Hillary did it, why would they care now?
                            Actually, they did care very much when it was Hillary and she was running for president.
                            She was dangerous and had to be gotten rid of, by any means possible.
                            But not that it's Trump's son-in-law and all, they couldn't care less.
                            He's just a nuisance they can overlook.
                            So long as he takes the heat off Trump.
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