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  • #31
    Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS

    well Phil, if you could state a central question rather than a series of anecdotals, I would be happy to answer.

    As far as questions I have for you, they remain un-answered. (what was that thread title.....?
    But since you., the moderator of the forum, have already determined that the thread in question is a legitimate discussion of ancestry, and suitable to the standards of HCPP, and not a race baiting feeding frenzy, that answers pretty much all of the questions I have



    Yep, a legitimate discussion of ancestry, not a race baiting troll thread - lol, welcome to HCPP
    So who do you think will be our first black president?

    And you've not answered my original question to you . . . .So tell us about the race and ancestry of the poster of that thread which you allege is a race baiting troll thread.
    Originally posted by MrKnobs
    God, that's beautiful man! And they say romance is dead!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post
      yeah... maybe the gals just dont have the stomach to hang in a rough and tumble internet forum
      Rough & tumble....yeh...Like the ones' that are talking about the muppets.
      Last edited by stratosaurus; 09-24-2017, 09:35 PM.
      ''All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"--Edmund Burke
      Man created science to create what man wants science to create.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cornholio Farquarth III View Post

        Tell us what you know about the race and ethnicity of the original poster of that thread. White? Anglo? Please educate us.
        you're not black

        but even if you are, it was still a race baiting troll thread

        relax corn-hole, mods here thought it a perfectly acceptable ''discussion of ancestry'' so you're safe here with those types of threads here at hcpp

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        • #34
          Originally posted by arcadesonfire View Post
          Yeah, we've got one African American regular. He mentions it occasionally. And we've got a few Asian fellas from America and abroad. One Native American whose perspective is certainly informed. Plus we've got internationals--and a Russian.

          No women though. Couple things: For much of guitar and gear lust's history, men got into the hobby and profession at a higher rate. Most of this forum is older. Younger folks use other types of social media for such discussions. So HCPP is a crop of older music hobbyists, which means they come from a time when men got into the hobby/art/profession at a much higher rate.

          That miiight be it.

          Plus, maybe old men are just more likely than women to go into small forums and repeatedly go head-to-head yelling at the same people?? I mean, politely share nuanced discussions with the same people.
          Yeah, this place is a bit like the White Hart or Cheers in that respect....
          "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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          • RogueGnome
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            Cheers- where everybody knows your race.

        • #35
          Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post

          Ridiculous, in what way?? as in ''troll thread'' ridiculous, or ''slapstick humor'' ridiculous?






          oh is that how you interpreted the thread - a ''discussion'' of Obama's ancestry. Hmmm....what was the thread title again.....???





          Considering the thread title, started by a white person, stated that Obama should not be considered black, because his bloodline is not sufficiently black enough. And who is the judge of ''blackness'' anyway?
          Starting to see the implications, or do you need me to connect the dots for you?
          White guys! Amiright?

          Do you think your belief that one needs to be the right color to ask certain questions or say certain things is a function of your whiteness?

          Of course the actual attempts to assign who's really Black or who's really a woman almost always come from the left. Sharing the collective belief to which you just alluded, that being the right color or gender gives you a special status regarding what is acceptable to say, it becomes very important to revoke that status for those who say the wrong things, in other words those who think for themselves and don't regurgitate the left's script. How many times have we heard conservative Blacks referred to as "uncle Toms" because they don't think the right way, and remember the recent gem Linda Sarsaour tweeted, that she wished she could take away the vaginas of women who don't share her views. So I'm not going to pay much heed to another white guy trying to tell people what color people can say what. Probably best to just let people ask why a person with a White mother and Black father should automatically be considered "Black" rather than reach for some way to call it racist.



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          • #36
            Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post

            I thought it was ridiculous to argue about it because President Obama will obviously go down in history as our first Black President. Arguing about percentages is ridiculous.

            I've got a few percentages for you.
            For nearly everyone on the planet, except for those of 100% African heritage, each-and-every one of us has 2-3% Neanderthal in us.
            Yeah, I know y'all think I got a whole lot more than that.


            To you I'm an atheist; but to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.

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            • RogueGnome
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              thanks. (family portrait over the mantel)

            • panhandler
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              I had you at 6% in the poll.

            • arcadesonfire
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              No homers.

          • #37
            Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post

            White guys! Amiright?

            Do you think your belief that one needs to be the right color to ask certain questions or say certain things is a function of your whiteness?

            Of course the actual attempts to assign who's really Black or who's really a woman almost always come from the left. Sharing the collective belief to which you just alluded, that being the right color or gender gives you a special status regarding what is acceptable to say, it becomes very important to revoke that status for those who say the wrong things, in other words those who think for themselves and don't regurgitate the left's script. How many times have we heard conservative Blacks referred to as "uncle Toms" because they don't think the right way, and remember the recent gem Linda Sarsaour tweeted, that she wished she could take away the vaginas of women who don't share her views. So I'm not going to pay much heed to another white guy trying to tell people what color people can say what. Probably best to just let people ask why a person with a White mother and Black father should automatically be considered "Black" rather than reach for some way to call it racist.
            Obama self identified as African American. Is that good enough for everyone?
            flip the phase

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            • RogueGnome
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              good enough for me.

          • #38
            On the lack of diversity, I figured either it really is mostly White guys or that the other ethnicities who post here resist the temptation to lead with that. Apparently the one guy a few referred to does because I don't know who y'all mean. We used to have more non-Whites I feel like though. I really liked blackmappes back in the day. It is a bit disappointing, but I don't see how the forum is unwelcoming to anyone of color. I can see how hanging around in a room full of sweaty dudes might have limited appeal to women though.



            While she's talking, I'll use my mind to think of other things. She can't stop my mind!

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            • #39
              Originally posted by gubu View Post

              Obama self identified as African American. Is that good enough for everyone?
              Meh, self-identification is all the rage these days.

              But as long as we continue to put such a premium on race, racial bona fides will be vetted.



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              • #40
                Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post

                Meh, self-identification is all the rage these days.

                But as long as we continue to put such a premium on race, racial bona fides will be vetted.
                By racists 😛
                flip the phase

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              • #41
                Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post


                Of course the actual attempts to assign who's really Black or who's really a woman almost always come from the left.
                Someone hasn't been paying attention (OD).
                To you I'm an atheist; but to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.

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              • #42
                well Phil, if you could state a central question rather than a series of anecdotals, I would be happy to answer.

                As far as questions I have for you, they remain un-answered. (what was that thread title.....?
                But since you., the moderator of the forum, have already determined that the thread in question is a legitimate discussion of ancestry, and suitable to the standards of HCPP, and not a race baiting feeding frenzy, that answers pretty much all of the questions I have

                Originally posted by Cornholio Farquarth III View Post
                FYI, Obama is not black. He is mixed race. His mother is white. So we have not yet had a black President.

                So who do you think will be or want to be the first black President?


                Yep, a legitimate discussion of ancestry, not a race baiting troll thread - lol, welcome to HCPP

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                • #43
                  how many blacks in the US have no other blood than African?

                  I guess it's up to the people here at HCPP to determine who is black and who is not. The final arbiters of racial purity - HCPP white people club. Not race trolling, just legitimate discussion of ancestry, suitable for any Gibson owned forum..

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                  • #44
                    Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post

                    White guys! Amiright?

                    Do you think your belief that one needs to be the right color to ask certain questions or say certain things is a function of your whiteness?

                    Of course the actual attempts to assign who's really Black or who's really a woman almost always come from the left.
                    lol no discussion here about women or gender - that sounds like a personal issue.


                    Sharing the collective belief to which you just alluded, that being the right color or gender gives you a special status regarding what is acceptable to say, it becomes very important to revoke that status for those who say the wrong things, in other words those who think for themselves and don't regurgitate the left's script. How many times have we heard conservative Blacks referred to as "uncle Toms" because they don't think the right way,
                    almost never- but you go on with your fantasy


                    and remember the recent gem Linda Sarsaour tweeted, that she wished she could take away the vaginas of women who don't share her views
                    there you go again - fixated on women and their vaginas - lol, this is becoming a pattern with you. Is there something you would like to talk about?

                    . So I'm not going to pay much heed to another white guy trying to tell people what color people can say what. Probably best to just let people ask why a person with a White mother and Black father should automatically be considered "Black" rather than reach for some way to call it racist.

                    good point OD- since racial purity is basically non existent, most American blacks have some ''other'' in the bloodline. I guess nobody is really ''black'' then - so the right can now stop whining about ''black on black'' crime in Chicago.
                    Oh that's right, blacks will be considered black anytime it's convenient for the right, but not black enough when one is wildly successful. I guess it's up to all of you ''I'm not a racist'' white people to determine who is legitimately black amirite? The arbiters of racial purity - lol

                    lol, od, your motivations on race (and gender for that matter) are transparent.
                    Last edited by HAMMER TOSS; 09-26-2017, 05:48 AM.

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                    • #45
                      Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post

                      lol no discussion here about women or gender - that sounds like a personal issue.
                      almost never- but you go on with your fantasy
                      there you go again - fixated on women and their vaginas - lol, this is becoming a pattern with you. Is there something you would like to talk about?
                      good point OD- since racial purity is basically non existent, most American blacks have some ''other'' in the bloodline. I guess nobody is really ''black'' then - so the right can now stop whining about ''black on black'' crime in Chicago.
                      Oh that's right, blacks will be considered black anytime it's convenient for the right, but not black enough when one is wildly successful. I guess it's up to all of you ''I'm not a racist'' white people to determine who is legitimately black amirite? The arbiters of racial purity - lol
                      lol, od, your motivations on race (and gender for that matter) are transparent.
                      Ignoring the anticipated ad hominems, you should really put a bit more effort into dressing up your strawmen. Asking why a person with a white mother and black father can't be considered one as easily as the other is not the same as questioning--what was your term? ah yes--the "racial purity" of anyone with a drop of "other." Yes, yes... I know. RACIST!! amiright?

                      But let's hear some more of your white outrage. Can never get enough of that stuff!

                      https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/200...eing-offended/



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