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  • #31
    Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
    This country is not about groups. It is about the individual. The laws are not about protecting "groups". They are about protecting the individual.
    Except that there are some "groups" that need more protection than others.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cornholio Farquarth III View Post
      What will be the Dems strategy toward a win in the White House for 2020?

      What will be their approach to dethrone the President? Do they have a cohesive strategy, or will they simply rely on an anything-but-Trump play? Will they bring a superstar in to bring the independents back?
      Perhaps the Democrats' best course would be to let the Republicans talk, then remind people what happened the last time they fell for all that nonsense. It would be their, uh, "Trump" card.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by gismo recording View Post
        Except that there are some "groups" that need more protection than others.
        No there are not. There may be PEOPLE that need more protection than others, but that is due to a variety of factors - the neighborhood they live in, the places they go, the attitude of other people towards them, etc.

        This is why I'm against "hate crime" laws. What they are is "thought crimes".

        If you drag a guy behind your pickup because he's homosexual or you drag him behind your pickup because he dated your ex-girlfriend, the crime should be the same and face the same penalty. Otherwise you are saying one victim is more valuable to society than the other one. That is unconstitutional.

        In the eyes of the law, all people are equal. If they are not treated as such (e.g. rich guy skates on DUI because he knows the judge) it is not the law that needs to be altered. It is the judge that needs to be handled. And yes, the judge broke the law. No new law is needed.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by gismo recording View Post
          Except that there are some "groups" that need more protection than others.
          Have you ever heard of "equal protection"? Perhaps you might want to read the Constitution to understand why your statement is not in alignment with American values and law.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
            This is why I'm against "hate crime" laws. What they are is "thought crimes".

            If you drag a guy behind your pickup because he's homosexual or you drag him behind your pickup because he dated your ex-girlfriend, the crime should be the same and face the same penalty. Otherwise you are saying one victim is more valuable to society than the other one. That is unconstitutional.
            Agreed 100% - well said!
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            • #36
              as far as the op goes - What will be the Dems strategy toward a win in the White House for 2020?

              i believe that they will continue to try to vilify and demonize trump and trump supporters with profane rants and hyperbole, using all the usual celebrities and talking heads, right up until voting day. that will definitely work for both coasts, we'll see about flyover country...it'll be fun to see how the dynamics of 2018 and 2020 work out. the general trend i would like to see is `old people out, young people in'...
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post
                Anyone but Bu$h worked pretty good in '08.
                Bush had already served two terms, and under the 22nd Amendment, he couldn't run again in '08.

                While he was very unpopular by that point, "Anyone but Bush" had nothing to do with it.
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                • Tom Hicks
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                  Of course it had a huge impact on the 08 election. You can't wish away the bad taste in the mouth of the American people at the policies of the Republican Administration over the previous eight years. I also reject your implied argument that four years of trump wouldn't be enough to build up sufficient ill- to impact the race..












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