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  • #46
    Originally posted by moogerfooger View Post

    I have often had women walk in to the mens room because the women's room is full. they didn't seem concerned that I was in there at the time. they just had to go. I just figured unless there is a republican in a stall with a wide stance she'd by OK
    She wouldn't be his type.

    That's one of the biggest head-scratchers about this whole "bathroom" nonsense. Apparently conservatives are up in arms worried about kids who were born female but identify as male using the boys room. But wouldn't it be their daughters in the girls room who would be more at risk to people who identify as men?

    They can't even keep their own paranoia straight long enough to conjure up coherent arguments. It's just nonsense.
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  • #47
    I read the article, she's basically saying she's not going to conform because she feels differently, and mainly because she feels like she's being forced to conform.

    She's not going to conform because conformity isn't cool.

    BFD.

    Rob, it doesn't surprise me that you identify with her.
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    Originally posted by Grumpy_Polecat View Post
    For the record: Hitler using gas to exterminate his presumed enemies does not equal the use of chemical weapons.
    Reprehensible as it was, gassing was a conventional and accepted method for execution at the time. It is a stretch to equivocate the two.

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    • #48
      Originally posted by -Ed Phobes- View Post

      Such flawed analogies.

      I disagree.
      All text I enter is my opinion. If I feel it necessary to prove it, I'll back it up with links.

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      • #49
        Originally posted by E-money View Post
        I read the article, she's basically saying she's not going to conform because she feels differently, and mainly because she feels like she's being forced to conform.

        She's not going to conform because conformity isn't cool.

        BFD.

        Rob, it doesn't surprise me that you identify with her.
        Actually, you really have come pretty close, but there are a couple of nuances that are missing. e.g. the hidden cost of conforming. And that nuance is the key, not the unwillingness to conform. As usual, it is the "why" that really matters.
        All text I enter is my opinion. If I feel it necessary to prove it, I'll back it up with links.

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        • #50
          Originally posted by moogerfooger View Post

          hate is the new caring
          I believe that is the BLM motto.
          All text I enter is my opinion. If I feel it necessary to prove it, I'll back it up with links.

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          • #51
            Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
            Actually, you really have come pretty close, but there are a couple of nuances that are missing. e.g. the hidden cost of conforming. And that nuance is the key, not the unwillingness to conform. As usual, it is the "why" that really matters.

            Do I have to read another article for this info Rob, or, as Guido already asked, can you string together your thoughts on your own so I don't have to play Nancy Drew and solve this mystery on my own?
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            Originally posted by Grumpy_Polecat View Post
            For the record: Hitler using gas to exterminate his presumed enemies does not equal the use of chemical weapons.
            Reprehensible as it was, gassing was a conventional and accepted method for execution at the time. It is a stretch to equivocate the two.

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            • #52
              Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
              Actually, you really have come pretty close, but there are a couple of nuances that are missing. e.g. the hidden cost of conforming. And that nuance is the key, not the unwillingness to conform. As usual, it is the "why" that really matters.

              I'd love to know what you think 'the hidden cost' of letting trans people be trans would be, and who exactly is asking you to pay how much...

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              • NOS68
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                I'm curious about that too, maybe they've been sneaking it into our Verizon bills.

              • flemtone
                flemtone commented
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                TPC. I KNEW IT!!

            • #53
              I remember going to tigers games and seeing women peeing in the troughs.

              I turned out Ok. Sorta

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              • #54
                Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
                Actually, you really have come pretty close, but there are a couple of nuances that are missing. e.g. the hidden cost of conforming. And that nuance is the key, not the unwillingness to conform. As usual, it is the "why" that really matters.

                There is nothing for you or me to conform TO. Trans people have existed forever. People who have "female" on their birth certificate but identify as male --- some of them who have had surgeries giving themselves penises and some who have not --- have been using the same restroom as you for your entire life. You just didn't know it, apparently.

                Which is how it should be. So why do you want to change what has already been? Whom is it who is asking whom to conform?
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                • #55
                  I read that article, Rob. I noted the points made, and I have come to the conclusion that you are entitled to your opinions. By the same token, so am I. But your right to your opinion ends when you try to tell others how to live according to your standards and not theirs. It's as simple as that.

                  You are not being "made to believe" anything. You may still believe homosexuality is whatever Reverend Hellfire told you it is, based on a twisted interpretation of two verses from Leviticus and the book of Lot. Fine by me so long as you keep it to yourself. The laws "forcing" you to accept what you think is "sin" are there to prevent discrimination, not to "force" you to do anything more than treat all people the same way. You don't have to participate in a gay wedding or marry a transsexual if you don't want to, but don't force your tight views of "Christian Morality" on anyone, either. Unless of course you want to go back to the "Good Old Days" of "damnatio ad bestias," when criminals, including those who were "dissenters from the state gods" and "confessors of a religion not authorized by the law" were "presented to the beasts of the royal menagerie" as a form of execution. Otherwise known as "throwing Christians to the lions."

                  Or you can just move your cake shop to someplace where gay people aren't likely to offer to buy anything from you.
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                  • #56
                    If someone is of legal age, usually 18, they have a right to become the opposite sex. If someone is homosexual, they have that right. Anybody above the legal age to marry have that right. If a man makes his self a woman and a woman makes herself a man, they meet, get married,... THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT. The laws may not fully recognize that nationwide, but the Constipation will not be wrongly interpreted.
                    So all y'all can stop this, 'he's gonna take over SCOTUS' nonsense I hear ever single time we git a new prez.
                    Last edited by Belva; 09-06-2017, 04:19 PM.

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                    • Belva
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                      constipation not wrongly moved upon?

                  • #57
                    Originally posted by Belva View Post
                    If someone is of legal age, usually 18, they have a right to become the opposite sex. If someone is homosexual, they have that right. Anybody above the legal age to marry have that right. If a man makes his self a woman and a woman makes herself a man, they meet, get married,... THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT. The laws may not fully recognize that nationwide, but the Constipation will not be wrongly interpreted.
                    So all y'all can stop this, 'he's gonna take over SCOTUS' nonsense I hear ever single time we git a new prez.

                    I wish it were that simple. If it were, every decision coming out of the SCOTUS would be 9-0. The gay marriage decision was 5-4. So if you don't think who the president is and who they appoint to the court can make a difference on these sorts of issues, you're fookin' wrong.
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                    • #58
                      Originally posted by Belva View Post
                      If someone is of legal age, usually 18, they have a right to become the opposite sex. If someone is homosexual, they have that right. Anybody above the legal age to marry have that right. If a man makes his self a woman and a woman makes herself a man, they meet, get married,... THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT. The laws may not fully recognize that nationwide, but the Constipation will not be wrongly interpreted.
                      So all y'all can stop this, 'he's gonna take over SCOTUS' nonsense I hear ever single time we git a new prez.
                      I must be a bit odd. My personal philosophy about this is: I have enough problems of my own, unless you're harshing my mellow, what you're doing isn't really any of my fooking business

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                      • #59
                        Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
                        It crossed my mind that they made up the turn of words. Heck, I do it all the time. Intelligent human beings have the ability to string together English words in complete sentences to communicate thoughts and ideas.

                        It is not a copyrighted phrase, so you can feel free to use that phrase if you want.

                        If you want to know what is meant by the phrase there are two avenues you can take. You can parse the words or you can read the article to see if it brings clarity to what the author meant by stringing those two words together. And doing both might be best.

                        Glad to help!
                        So lets review. You state the article is exactly how you feel AND CLAIM TO BE AN ACTIVIST AGAINST THE TRANSGENDER CRUSADE, encourage everyone to read it and learn yet you cannot define what the "Transgender Crusade " is when asked. How in the hell are you an activist against something when you don't even know what it is? You claimed to be an activist because you use words. I'm asking you use your super activist word skills and tell everybody here what the "Transgender Crusade" is. Very simple if you are telling the truth and not trolling.
                        Last edited by harrycox1; 09-06-2017, 05:10 PM.
                        Originally posted by nedezero1;
                        Good. More lib fake news correspondents need to be assaulted when they get too pushy.
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                        • #60
                          Originally posted by guido61 View Post


                          I wish it were that simple. If it were, every decision coming out of the SCOTUS would be 9-0. The gay marriage decision was 5-4. So if you don't think who the president is and who they appoint to the court can make a difference on these sorts of issues, you're fookin' wrong.
                          Has it happened yet? In never really seems to.
                          I think Trump will be gone before any SCOTUS changes happen. If it happens, the Repugs may tell him to stick it.

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