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  • Trump picks general Michael Flynn for his national security adviser. The guy who supports torture, might be okay with blowing up terrorist's families, and posts fake news about Hillary Clinton.

    Yikes.

    Trump's picks for his cabinet aren't going very well.

    A bunch of sycophant extremists thus far.
    http://qz.com/841027/trumps-national...llary-clinton/

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    He has led chants for Hillary Clinton to be “locked up,” dined with Russian president Vladimir Putin and been tacitly rebuked by the head of the joint chiefs of staff for his politicking.

    ...

    Torture

    When asked about Trump’s endorsement of the use of torture for interrogation purposes, he told Al Jazeera: “I am a believer in leaving as many options on the table right up until the last possible minute.”

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    Islam

    All of Flynn’s other positions are in keeping with the mission to defeat the most common target of Flynn’s ire: Islam. In the Post interview, he repeatedly called Islam an “ideology based on a religion,” rather than a religion in its own right. While revealing, this was one of his less alarming utterances on the subject.

    In a
    book co-authored with Michael Ledeen, he claims “radical Islamists” are trying to create “an Islamic state right here at home…a totalitarian state under the dictates of the most rigid version of Sharia.”

    What’s more, without “a proper sense of urgency,” we will be “very likely destroyed,” by Islamic militants. The man who now has the president-elect’s ear on security issues concluded there is “no doubt that they are dead set on taking us over and drinking our blood.”



    General Flynn

    @GenFlynn


    Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL: please forward this to others: the truth fears no questions... http://youtu.be/tJnW8HRHLLw


    A bit more "herp-de-derp" fever swamp madness about Hillary Clinton, and other conspiracy garbage.
    http://fortune.com/2016/11/19/trump-...-adviser-hoax/

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    On Twitter in particular, Flynn has not been shy about holding forth about Muslims, terrorism, and Hillary Clinton. And in several cases he has shared fake news stories about those subjects.

    Just a few days before the election, the general tweeted a link to a news hoax from a right-wing conspiracy theory site called True Pundit, and said the New York Police Department had evidence of new Hillary Clinton emails that proved her involvement in or knowledge of money laundering and sex crimes with children, among other things.


    General Flynn

    @GenFlynn


    U decide - NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes w Children, etc...MUST READ!http://truepundit.com/breaking-bombshell-nypd-blows-whistle-on-new-hillary-emails-money-laundering-sex-crimes-with-children-child-exploitation-pay-to-play-perjury/ …

    Flynn also retweeted a conspiracy theory that the United Nations Agenda 21 program, which is designed to create sustainable development in emerging nations, would actually put in place a global church in which Christianity would be forbidden and would “undermine America’s sovereignty.”

    Earlier this year, the general also linked to a tweet that had a photo of Hillary Clinton wearing a head scarf and claimed that this showed “solidarity with Islamic terrorists.” In fact, she was wearing it out respect during a visit to a mosque in Pakistan in 2009 as Secretary of State. Flynn said Clinton was “showing disrespect for American Values and Principles.”

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    On another occasion, Flynn retweeted a right-wing, anti-Semitic commentator, Jared Wyland, who shared a video clip that he claimed was of an ex-Muslim telling President Obama about how ISIS is “practicing Islam to the letter.” Flynn said in his retweet: “Brother Rashid is worth listening to. Most powerful message I’ve heard in a long time.”

    A national security adviser who hates Muslims. What could possibly go wrong?

    And yet another example of Flynn's off-the-rails kookery.
    Top Trump Adviser Michael Flynn Falsely Claimed Florida Democrats Supported Sharia Law, a charge which Politifact said was a pants on fire lie.

    The man whispering into Trump's ear, guiding his national security decisions, and possibly military action... is an unhinged conspiracy theorist who believes in and peddles fake news.

    That's some terrifying ****.
    Don't even bother. You can't win.


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  • #2
    No surprise there.
    Originally posted by RobRoy
    There is an "honest grit" to his lying.
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    • #3
      Oh, I almost forgot the bit about blowing up the families of terrorists.
      http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...081014660.html

      When asked if he supports Trump's proposal to kill the families of suspected terrorists, Flynn tells Mehdi Hasan: "I would have to see the circumstances of that situation."

      @3:38

      Don't even bother. You can't win.


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      • #4
        Ho-ly crap! What a loon.
        http://www.vox.com/world/2016/11/19/...ser-actual-job

        He begins his 2016 book, The Field of Fight, by describing his reason for writing it: to expose an anti-American alliance between China, Cuba, and jihadist terrorists that the Obama administration is covering up. This is not an exaggeration; it is literally a defining feature of his worldview:

        This administration has forbidden us to describe our enemies properly and clearly: they are Radical Islamists. They are not alone, and are allied with countries and groups who, though not religious fanatics, share their hatred of the West, particularly the United States and Israel. Those allies include North Korea, Russia, China, Cuba, and Venezuela.
        There is no evidence that these countries are “allied” with groups like ISIS or al-Qaeda in any meaningful sense of the word.

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        What this speaks to is Flynn’s propensity for hyping up the threat from jihadist groups, and trying to make everything else to fit that frame.

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        “The rap on him in the intelligence world is that he is great tactically but clueless strategically,” seasoned defense reporter Tom Ricks writes at Foreign Policy. “Not what you want in this slot.”

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        To make matters worse, Flynn has a serious problem telling true information from false. He seems willing to believe anything that flatters his worldview and casts his opponents in a bad light, no matter how offensive or implausible the information may be.

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        This was a serious problem when he was chief of DIA. According to the New York Times’s Matthew Rosenberg and Maggie Haberman, he said so many questionable or false things during his time at the agency that his staff coined a term for them: “Flynn facts.”

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        Imagine him in something like the runup to the Iraq War, where choosing to believe the wrong evidence helped push the United States into a disastrous military conflict. And further imagine that the president isn’t George W. Bush, who at least had some knowledge of world affairs and some good advisers, but Donald Trump.
        This guy could be a dangerous nightmare.

        Fake right wing fever swamp news created in foreign countries, lapped up by someone proven to be suggestible and gullible, and fed to someone proven to be suggestible and gullible with access to the nuclear codes and command of the military.

        What could possibly go wrong?
        Don't even bother. You can't win.


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        • #5
          Flynn is a Democrat who was named director of the Defense Intelligence Agency by Obama. He was also fired by Obama. One wonders why Trump would be considering him,,,,,,>
          "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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          • #6
            I listened to the video, and after hearing his explanations to very pointed questions, I heard nothing alarming in there.

            IMO whoever listened and still had a problem, I think THEY'VE got a problem.

            As for the rest of the BS and flailing, between the sources and reading between the lines, I don't give it much due.

            No matter who Trump picks they're gonna find and exaggerate everything and make him the devil unless it's one of the failures whose politics they prefer. And if Obama fired him, that just gives him more credibility imo.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Marko View Post
              I listened to the video, and after hearing his explanations to very pointed questions, I heard nothing alarming in there.

              IMO whoever listened and still had a problem, I think THEY'VE got a problem.

              As for the rest of the BS against him, 1) between the sources and reading between the lines, I don't give it much due.

              No matter who Trump picks they're gonna find and exaggerate everything and make him the devil unless it's one of the failures whose politics they prefer. 2) And if Obama fired him, that just gives him more credibility imo.
              1) The sources? Much of the worrisome insanity is coming directly from Flynn's own Twitter feed, Flynn's own book, and from Flynn's own mouth on camera.

              2) That's just the thing. The anti-Obama Republican tribalism is clear as day. It doesn't matter that his own people couldn't believe some of the things Flynn said, or that Flynn peddles in fake news and conspiracies... it just matters that he's been critical of Obama.
              Don't even bother. You can't win.


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              • arcadesonfire
                arcadesonfire commented
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                I had an experience on here today when I talked about Breitbart and someone told me I needed to read more sources and shouldn't trust what mainstream media tells me about Breitbart. But when you can go straight to Breitbart and see what it has to say, you don't need to read anything else to know what Breitbart has to say.

                It is baffling to see people not able to... i dunno... do the most basic processing of information.

              • willhaven
                willhaven commented
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                It's a lazy way to pretend to have a rebuttal when they just don't want to do the work to prove their case, and want to keep repeating the same nonsense anyways.

                *hand waive*

            • #8
              Yo, willhaven, do you have a life or is this it? Fer crissake, man, you got a problem a pill won't fix. Get over yourself and try to make like a normal human being. BTW, this group reads the news. You don't need to surrogate that for us to ride your rants on top of and pretend your past opinions on the entire political landscape carry any weight anymore. The last election, where your preceding public efforts and those of your ilk backfired, proved they don't. Just thought you'd like to know that, as well as perhaps taking a hint for humility's sake.
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              • Phil O'Keefe
                Phil O'Keefe commented
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                Watch the personal attacks please...

              • arcadesonfire
                arcadesonfire commented
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                Some folks have a hobby of trying to learn Yngwie Malmsteen on guitar. Some folks have a hobby of reloading ammo and going target shooting. Some people have a hobby of gathering and presenting news sources online. Different strokes for different folks.

            • #9
              Flynn's tweets are more than a bit concerning, assuming that what is being passed around is legitimate.

              I have also heard that while he is a brilliant analyst, he does not have the managerial and organizational skills needed for the position.

              He's a Democrat. There's a reason that the Obama administration retired him. Before sticking up for him, you might want to understand what transpired,,,,
              "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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              • #10
                Originally posted by SteinbergerHack View Post
                Flynn's tweets are more than a bit concerning, assuming that what is being passed around is legitimate.

                I have also heard that while he is a brilliant analyst, he does not have the managerial and organizational skills needed for the position.

                He's a Democrat. There's a reason that the Obama administration retired him. Before sticking up for him, you might want to understand what transpired,,,,
                Some said his management style was chaotic. He said they fired him for calling our enemies radical jihadis.

                Perhaps they fired him for believing falsehoods and for having extremist views on Muslims that clouded his judgment. I can't imagine that his gullibility and conspiracy chasing is an entirely new phenomenon that started only since he was let go.
                Don't even bother. You can't win.


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                • #11
                  Sounds kinda like this guy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dILmZn0I4Pw

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                • #12
                  Oh boy. He really is a conspiracy nut, isn't he?

                  And this is what has come out of his mouth. I wonder how many conspiracies he secretly believes in.

                  Note that Flynn is rejecting America's evidence, the Arab League's evidence, NATO's evidence, and the opinions of other western governments in favor of something much closer to Assad and Putin's position on the matter.

                  Isn't that... worrisome, Republicans?
                  http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/politi...lynn-rt-syria/

                  ...Michael Flynn, said he didn't know whether the 2013 sarin gas attack in Syria was conducted by the Syrian Army or by other forces in an attempt to draw the United States into the conflict.

                  Flynn not ruling out the possibility of a "false flag" attack raises questions about how the Trump administration will approach the Syrian conflict. The Obama administration, the Arab League, NATO, and many western governments have pointed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime as being responsible for the attack. A United Nations investigation didn't assign blame, but evidence from the report pointed to the Assad regime being responsible.

                  Assad's regime and Russian President Vladimir Putin claim opposition forces were behind the attack.

                  Flynn [...] made the remarks during a December 2015 question and answer session hosted by the Russian government-funded television network, Russia Today.

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                  ...Putin wrote, "No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists."

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                  At the 2015 dinner for RT's anniversary, Flynn was seated at the same table as Putin.
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                  Last edited by willhaven; 11-21-2016, 04:43 PM.
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                  • #13
                    Michael Flynn believes the rise of ISIS was an intentional decision by the US.

                    @3: 08



                    HASAN: You are basically saying that even in government at the time you knew these groups were around, you saw this analysis, and you were arguing against it, but who wasn’t listening?

                    FLYNN: I think the administration.

                    HASAN: So the administration turned a blind eye to your analysis?

                    FLYNN: I don’t know that they turned a blind eye, I think it was a decision. I think it was a willful decision.

                    HASAN: A willful decision to support an insurgency that had Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood?

                    FLYNN: It was a willful decision to do what they’re doing.
                    Last edited by willhaven; 11-21-2016, 05:02 PM.
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                    • #14
                      Originally posted by willhaven View Post
                      Michael Flynn believes the rise of ISIS was an intentional decision by the US.

                      @3: 08



                      HASAN: You are basically saying that even in government at the time you knew these groups were around, you saw this analysis, and you were arguing against it, but who wasn’t listening?

                      FLYNN: I think the administration.

                      HASAN: So the administration turned a blind eye to your analysis?

                      FLYNN: I don’t know that they turned a blind eye, I think it was a decision. I think it was a willful decision.

                      HASAN: A willful decision to support an insurgency that had Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood?

                      FLYNN: It was a willful decision to do what they’re doing.
                      So is Flynn the guy who told Trump that Obama and Clinton were the founders of ISIS? Oy vey. He'll make a great security advisor.
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                      • #15
                        Flynn, deeply critical of Hillary Clinton, has plenty of security issues in his past, too.

                        Perhaps the House Repugnicans will investibate?
                        http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/gen-...ring-campaign/
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                        ...Flynn reportedly broke rules he thought were “stupid” and “insane,”

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                        “Flynn broke rules he thought were stupid. He once told me about a period he spent assigned to a C.I.A. station in Iraq, when he would sometimes sneak out of the compound without the ‘insane’ required approval from C.I.A. headquarters, in Langley, Virginia,” the profile outlines.

                        Flynn reportedly also had technicians install an internet connection in his office in the Pentagon even though it was forbidden.

                        “There was also the time he gave classified information to NATO allies without approval, an incident which prompted an investigation, and a warning from superiors,”


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                        Yet, when it came to Sec. Clinton, Flynn was singing a different tune.

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                        In the interview with Flynn, Kelly cited President Obama’s statement that Clinton never “jeopardized” national security with her emails. Flynn replied, “I don’t agree with the president. Not one bit.”
                        Last edited by willhaven; 11-24-2016, 08:10 PM.
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