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    I don't know if my link will work, but

    https://www.facebook.com/foxandfrien...270788/?type=1

    apparently Fox and Friends posted a picture to their facebook page from a Veterans Day show, where Springsteen, Dave Grohl and Zac Brown played "Fortunate Son" onstage.

    They (and the FoxHeads) are going on and on about how unpatriotic and "Unfortunate" the song selection was.

    Based on the comments, there are a LOT of people who watch / are following Fox and Friends that really seem to have deep problems with basic understanding of simple issues. But maybe that's why they're watching Fox.

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    I love creedence. fox not so much.

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    • #3
      uh oh.
      This doesn't bode well for CCR.
      Could cause their breakup.
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      • #4
        I've been reading down through the comments, and so far, every single Vietnam veteran has defended the song and critiqued Fox for not knowing what they're talking about. The ones calling Springsteen a "POS liberal" don't seem to have any military experience.
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        • #5
          I love the song, but it does seem like an unusual choice to play at a Veteran's Day event.

          Some folks are born made to wave the flag
          Ooh, they're red, white and blue
          And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
          Oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord


          It ain't me, it ain't me
          I ain't no Senator's son
          It ain't me, it ain't me
          I ain't no fortunate one, no


          (snip)

          Yeah, some folks inherit star spangled eyes
          Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
          And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
          Oh, they only answer, more, more, more, oh


          It ain't me, it ain't me
          I ain't no military son
          It ain't me, it ain't me
          I ain't no fortunate one


          Fogerty wrote it as an anti-war song, and a protest about how the elites (politicians, the ultra-wealthy, and their kids) were unwilling to pay their share of the cost of war, either in blood or taxes. I suspect the artists in question played it as a means of reminding all of us to remember the cost of war... but who knows?
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          • #6
            Seems like a fine song to sing on Veterans Day. The message I get from the song is that we'd have less wars if the rich people who start them had to fight them.
            I would not deny that war had a certain moral core, but that made it easier for Americans to treat all subsequent wars with a kind of glow, Mr. Zinn said. Every enemy becomes Hitler. Howard Zinn

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            • #7
              there was a concert at the white house a few days ago, broadcast on PBS, with a mostly military audience in attendance. john fogerty was one of the musicians appearing, and he performed bad moon on the rise and fortunate son; both of which are anti vietnam war songs. he received a standing ovation from the audience for both tunes.

              http://www.pbs.org/inperformanceatth...salute-troops/

              i guess you had to be there. the troops just didn't seemed outraged.
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              • #8
                I think the fact that poor people are cannon fodder to fight the wars started (and profited-on) by the rich people is just as true today as it was when Fogerty wrote it. What with the issues with Veterans getting access to the services they need, Veterans Day is the perfect time to have that conversation.
                Last edited by wasgtrjones; 11-12-2014, 03:16 PM.

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                • #9
                  I think wars today should be fought by the world leaders, MMA style, but naked and to the death. Naked would embarrass a whole lot of tough guys leading countries and to the death would make them think twice about starting a war.
                  Sprinkles are for winners...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gp2112 View Post
                    I think wars today should be fought by the world leaders, MMA style, but naked and to the death. Naked would embarrass a whole lot of tough guys leading countries and to the death would make them think twice about starting a war.
                    Indeed. Then we'd have to change our constitution to get the Terminator in the whitehouse and thence defeat Putin.

                    Forget Schwarzenagger actually. I'd nominate the doorman* in my building. He was a US marine, a professional mma fighter (holding a record in one event for a year), and third degree blackbelt who studied in Japan for years... He was "on vacation" right as we were beginning our offensive against ISIS... hmm, hmm. (*Even with all that talent, and an ultra sincere/helpful personality, THIS is the job he could get in New York. Hopefully he enjoys having a more relaxing job nowadays.)
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                    • #11
                      Worth a read:- http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/...d-dick-cheney/
                      flip the phase

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RogueGnome View Post
                        uh oh.
                        This doesn't bode well for CCR.
                        Could cause their breakup.

                        And none of them could go solo if they sound like Creedence.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wasgtrjones View Post
                          I don't know if my link will work, but

                          https://www.facebook.com/foxandfrien...270788/?type=1

                          apparently Fox and Friends posted a picture to their facebook page from a Veterans Day show, where Springsteen, Dave Grohl and Zac Brown played "Fortunate Son" onstage.

                          They (and the FoxHeads) are going on and on about how unpatriotic and "Unfortunate" the song selection was.

                          Based on the comments, there are a LOT of people who watch / are following Fox and Friends that really seem to have deep problems with basic understanding of simple issues. But maybe that's why they're watching Fox.

                          "Fox And Friends" are "outraged" over something a "liberal musician" allegedly did?
                          Why does this not surprise me?

                          I wonder if any of those "journalists" ever listened to "Fortunate Son?"
                          Or grasped the message in that song -- that "fortunate" people are
                          the ones who start wars, then send the rest of us to fight them.
                          Maybe they're "outraged" because Credence Clearwater Revival
                          pointed out the hypocrisy of flag-waving arm chair "patriots" such as
                          those on "Fox And Friends" and the people who watch that show for
                          the "truth" they claim to offer?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Badger View Post
                            "Fox And Friends" are "outraged" over something a "liberal musician" allegedly did?
                            Why does this not surprise me?

                            I wonder if any of those "journalists" ever listened to "Fortunate Son?"
                            Or grasped the message in that song -- that "fortunate" people are
                            the ones who start wars, then send the rest of us to fight them.
                            Maybe they're "outraged" because Credence Clearwater Revival
                            pointed out the hypocrisy of flag-waving arm chair "patriots" such as
                            those on "Fox And Friends" and the people who watch that show for
                            the "truth" they claim to offer?
                            Ouch
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shreddhappy27 View Post
                              Seems like a fine song to sing on Veterans Day. The message I get from the song is that we'd have less wars if the rich people who start them had to fight them.


                              Precisely.

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