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  • Women in combat

    Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.

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  • #2

    savoldi wrote:

    Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


    Why not?

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    • moonlightin
      moonlightin commented
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      Mister Bigsby wrote:

      savoldi wrote:

      Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


      Why not?



      Mister Bigsby wrote:

      savoldi wrote:

      Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


      Why not?


      Because we're just such delicate fine weak creatures.

       

      lol

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    • guitarville
      guitarville commented
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      Mister Bigsby wrote:

      savoldi wrote:

      Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


      Why not?


      American women are not trained to kill, that's why not. America is not North Korea. There should be plenty of men soldiers to fill this front line position. If not, the Amerian military is in bad shape.


  • #3

    savoldi wrote:

    Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


    they already are in combat...over 1500 killed in asisa since 911...i expect few to make it to specialized combat units, but let em try.

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    • thefunkman
      thefunkman commented
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      As long as the woman next to me could pick up my semi-lifeless, shot-up a$$ from the battlefield and carry me to safety and/or the nearest corpsman, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  If she can't, stay the fugg out.


    • Ed
      Ed commented
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      Davo17 wrote:

      savoldi wrote:

      Probably inevitable, but I'm not liking the idea.


      they already are in combat...over 1500 killed in asisa since 911...i expect few to make it to specialized combat units, but let em try.


      Yes, they are already in combat, but not front line infantry stuff. There, they have no business being because women simply aren't strong enough to hack it.

      The fact is, that this is one of those stupid diversity ideas that has absolutely nothing to do with common sense. It will not make the military any better, but it will make a bunch of idiot lefties think that, despite how much they hate war, things will at least be equal.




  • #4

    Need one comment that the Amazon female warriors were most feared.

    Genetic tracing does show that there was an Asian/Mongolian tribe of Amazonians.  If history is correct, men were their slaves.

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    • #5
      Hard to believe anyone thinks this is a good idea.

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      • Fred Fartboski
        Fred Fartboski commented
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        If a woman chooses to sign up and engage in combat, that's her choice.


    • #6

      My guess would be that most of you, not all, have never been in military combat.

      I think that when it come to war, if the media chooses to focus on women who are wounded & killed in combat, it will change the whole perception of women in combat & war in general. In reality, if the media ever decides to focus on publishing unfiltered photos of the brutalities of war, as they happen, it would change the outlook of the majority who just see combat & war in the abstract, through the filtered print of media.

      Many who have seen the violence of war understand that it has an everlasting effect. You may see a soldier wounded or killed and it has an effect, When you see someone in your unit killed it has a much deeper effect. When you see a close friend killed, it changes everything. The normal non-combat person does nor recognize & can't even begin to imagine the effect it has on you mentally & physically & though it may ease, it doesn't go away.

      Personally, I believe women in full combat will only intensify these effects & reactions. We've just finished a year of record suicides in the military. It will increase with this decision.

       It is a utter ashamed that the media, with it's ability for live coverage has continued to present an almost absolute sanitary coverage & presentation of war. With the approval, promotion & increase of women in combat, I doubt that will continue.

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      • Davo17
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        stratosaurus wrote:

        My guess would be that most of you, not all, have never been in military combat.

        I think that when it come to war, if the media chooses to focus on women who are wounded & killed in combat, it will change the whole perception of women in combat & war in general. In reality, if the media ever decides to focus on publishing unfiltered photos of the brutalities of war, as they happen, it would change the outlook of the majority who just see combat & war in the abstract, through the filtered print of media.

        Many who have seen the violence of war understand that it has an everlasting effect. You may see a soldier wounded or killed and it has an effect, When you see someone in your unit killed it has a much deeper effect. When you see a close friend killed, it changes everything. The normal non-combat person does nor recognize & can't even begin to imagine the effect it has on you mentally & physically & though it may ease, it doesn't go away.

        Personally, I believe women in full combat will only intensify these effects & reactions. We've just finished a year of record suicides in the military. It will increase with this decision.

         It is a utter ashamed that the media, with it's ability for live coverage has continued to present an almost absolute sanitary coverage & presentation of war. With the approval, promotion & increase of women in combat, I doubt that will continue.


        i see people who have just died, are dying, or will be dying all the time...i call it tuesday.  In my business female medics do ok...though there are some issues pertaining to s pending long hours on a rig, as well as strength issues in lifting patients out of wreckage, or down stairs, or with combative patients...the psych part seems ok.  not the same as combat...but parts of the stress are...especially after being up running 911 calls for 72 hrs.

         

        your record suicides quote dismisses the far lower rate of suicides generally in the military population...its a perception altering statement so i question your use of it.  id also like to see what data you used to come to conclude it will lead to increases in suicide.

         

        the most worrisome aspect...is the chivalry aspect.  even from the youngest ages, boys protect and defend girls.  women exhibit a mild form of learned helplessness in many cases.  not saying a woman in combat will have that issue...but a womans presence may complicate things in that regard.

         

        another aspect...which i like...is that in much of the world, especially africa and the middle east...its a shameful thing to be fought by women.  i like the demoralising aspect of it.


    • #7

      Why do nattering Neocons belittle the decisions of the Pentagon?

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      • Hoddy
        Hoddy commented
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        Guess I'm not a 'neocon' since I'm fine with the decision.


      • Ed
        Ed commented
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        RedRoadEnsemble wrote:

        Why do nattering Neocons belittle the decisions of the Pentagon?


        What is the reason for this decision?


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      O ba ma has their backs...

      It's important to be a victim.

      Sometimes, you really have to dig down and search for a way to be a victim, but you can do it if you try hard.

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      • #9

        I don't like the idea much.

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        • redEL34
          redEL34 commented
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          I don`t like the idea ethier because, and I`m sure this argument has already been made, I just have an instinct to protect the finer of the sexes. I couldn`t escape that instinct.



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