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  • OT: Pretending to like jazz

    Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

    Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

     

    Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.

    Originally Posted by Noam Chomsky


    Whenever you hear anything said very confidently, the first thing that should come to mind is, wait a minute is that true?

  • #2
    I like a lot of jazz, especially from the 50's.
    Hail Homer! Blessed is he among men and blessed is the fruit of his loins Bart.

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    • Rudolf von Hagenwil
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      When you do not understand, or feel a Jazz tune, then omit the sevenths, and play triads, but only minor and major triads. Diminished triads and augmented triads are unhealthy for musically limited minds, and chords by seconds are a total no no for pop Heinies.

       

      The catalogue of my record company has no such Jazz! Sorry radomu, even thus one album won #1 Gold Album of the Year 2010 in Japan.


    • A. Einstein
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      "One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz"

    • Rudolf von Hagenwil
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      "200 Pounds Beauty"  (a Jazz tune)

       

      Han-na is an overweight phone sex employee and a ghost singer for Amy, a famous pop singer who actually lip syncs. Instead of being famous for her own amazing vocal talent, Han-na hides behind Amy's performance stage and sings during Amy's concerts, and records all of Amy's songs.

      Han-na attempts suicide but is interrupted by a phone call from one of her phone sex regulars who happens to be a top plastic surgeon.

      When she comes back from the hospital, Han-na is incredibly beautiful and slender.

       

       

       


  • #3

    The truth is that I would much more prefer to listen to Lily Allen than Charlie Parker (-.-)

    Originally Posted by Noam Chomsky


    Whenever you hear anything said very confidently, the first thing that should come to mind is, wait a minute is that true?

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    • bluzboy
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      radomu wrote:

      The truth is that I would much more prefer to listen to Lily Allen than Charlie Parker (-.-)


       

      That says a lot more about you than it does about Bird's music.

       

      He was a genius; you're obviously an idiot.


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    • #5

      radomu wrote:

      Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

      Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

       

      Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


      I like pretty much all forms of music except for rap and hip-hop. There is a lot of jazz I like but even more that I don't like. Return to Forever is a favorite of mine. I have some Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck that I like. Heck, I like classical, country, hillbilly, various forms of rock and pop, modern Christian worship music, you name it. I even like some music featuring a sitar.

      I can only assume that most of the people here like some aspects of most genres, being musicians and all. We "hear" more of the nuanced stuff going on. In fact, I listened to "Single Lady" without watching the video and that song seems to be a genre unto itself and I love it, though I am otherwise not a fan of her music.

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      • RogueGnome
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        I enjoy listening to jazz. It is pop music which I just cannot abide these days.

        I don't care if I never hear another 18-24 year old female vocalist. I hate that ****************. 

        But then... I am old.


      • Zeopold
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        Easy Listener wrote: I like pretty much all forms of music except for rap and hip-hop. 


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      radomu wrote:

      Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

      Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

       

      Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


      Translation:  Your transcendental honesty makes  you even more hip than the people pretending to be hip.

      Priceless.


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      • Rudolf von Hagenwil
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        There are two kind of music listeners:

        1. The poeple who have a natural understand for all music, and simply say to the composer and musicians: "Thank you, I enjoyed it very much"

        2. The snobs.


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      I grew up with and love jazz, and I'm lucky enough to live just outside NYC, the jazz capitol of the world.  I got a jazz education by pretty much living on 7th Ave South in the Village on the weekends, listening up close to jazz Greats like Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor, Sam Rivers, World Saxophone Quartet, Ornette Coleman, Tommy Flanagan, Keith Jarrett, Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette, Sheila Jordan, Carla Bley, Don Pullen, and 100s more.  And they were all gracious enough to spend some time with me when I asked them questions (except Keith, who bummed me out the last time I saw him with a between set rant about how much bad music there was in the world.)  It was an education you cannot get in a university.  I think the thing about jazz that rubs a lot of people the wrong way is that there is a lot more tension than resolution, like altered dominant 7and 9 chords resolving to more altered dominant 7 and 9 chords all the way through the circle of fifths.  People need to feel where "home" is (I chord), and need to go back there constantly. 

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      • Zig al-din
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        Joe Bleek wrote:

        I grew up with and love jazz, and I'm lucky enough to live just outside NYC, the jazz capitol of the world.  I got a jazz education by pretty much living on 7th Ave South in the Village on the weekends, listening up close to jazz Greats like Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor, Sam Rivers, World Saxophone Quartet, Ornette Coleman, Tommy Flanagan, Keith Jarrett, Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette, Sheila Jordan, Carla Bley, Don Pullen, and 100s more.  And they were all gracious enough to spend some time with me when I asked them questions (except Keith, who bummed me out the last time I saw him with a between set rant about how much bad music there was in the world.)  It was an education you cannot get in a university.  I think the thing about jazz that rubs a lot of people the wrong way is that there is a lot more tension than resolution, like altered dominant 7and 9 chords resolving to more altered dominant 7 and 9 chords all the way through the circle of fifths.  People need to feel where "home" is (I chord), and need to go back there constantly. 


         

        I have a friend who's a very talented musician (in terms of natural gifts) but who has zero technical understanding of music. He HATES jazz. (He hates all music that sounds like it came from blues or anything related to that tradition). Anyway, his way of putting it is that jazz chords sound "wrong" or "cheesy." Or both. Flat 5 chords sound wrong. Major 7 chords sound cheesy and 13 chords are both at once. So, seeing how jazz is chock full of either "wrongness" or "cheesiness," he can't stand it. He also has a strong natural aversion to any form of music where technical prowess is evident.

         

        I only mention this because it is a window into the mind of someone who hates jazz. I love jazz, especially from the 40's and 50's. Thelonious Monk, Duke Ellington and Wayne Shorter are some of my favorite composers. I could make a list of a hundred musicians in the idiom whom I admire and love -- but to him, it's all just wrong and cheesy. I dunno.   


    • #8

      radomu wrote:

      Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

      Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

       

      Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


       

       

      let's you and him fight.

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      • Tom Hicks
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        oh, and django


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      One of the best albums ever made,

       

      Besides being a guitar player,
      I'm a big fan of the guitar.
      I love that damn instrument.
      -Steve Vai

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      • #10

        radomu wrote:

        Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

        Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

         

        Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


        Return To Whatever is borderline circus music. Overrated.

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        • Hoddy
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          Sloppy Santa wrote:

          radomu wrote:

          Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

          Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

           

          Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


          Return To Whatever is borderline circus music. Overrated.


          That pretty much sums up just about all jazz.


      • #11

        The Return to Forever assessment is correct. lol

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        • Hoddy
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          I like how jazz heads get all huffy if someone doesn't like their music." id="man" src="https://guitarcenter.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_man-.png" alt=":man:" title="Man Very Happy" />


        • note4note
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          Zig al-din wrote:

          The Return to Forever assessment is correct. lol


          Perhaps.  I thought their first album had some good moments on it.

          This, with Corea, Clarke, and John McLaughlin, takes me away.


      • #12
        You can stop pretending.

        Meanwhile, I'm woodshedding to do Anthropology and a few other great tunes on guitar next month. I've played drums in bebop settings before, but this will be my first foray into performing that stuff on guitar. I'm both elated and scared.
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        • Joe Bleek
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          coyote-1 wrote:

          Meanwhile, I'm woodshedding to do Anthropology and a few other great tunes on guitar next month. I've played drums in bebop settings before, but this will be my first foray into performing that stuff on guitar. I'm both elated and scared.


          Anthropology on guitar?  I'm both elated and scared for you.


      • #13

        How about Craig Chaquico, formerly with Jefferson Starship, and his new age acoustic jazz.

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        • Red Ant
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          normh wrote:

          How about Craig Chaquico, formerly with Jefferson Starship, and his new age acoustic jazz.


          That is horrific!!!


      • #14

        My gF pretends to like Jizz..all over her face.

        Not a speck of cereal

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        • #15

          radomu wrote:

          Yeah, I just realized that the only "jazz" that I listen to and enjoy is Jeff Beck, Return to Forever, and Wes Montgomery.

          Turns out I like jazz as much as like metal: I enjoy listening to some songs of a couple of artists.

           

          Therefore, let us all stop pretend we actually listen to this stuff.


          A bit of an egotistical viewpoint you got there.  Ok, YOU only like a couple of Jazz artists.  That's entirely YOUR business.  Don't be trying to redefine everyone else's listening preferences though.

          Question: Why did the monkey fall out of the tree?


          Answer: because it was dead.

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