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  • ARKANSAS ADOPTS US'S MOST RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAW

    Mar 6, 4:51 PM EST

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    ARKANSAS ADOPTS US'S MOST RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAW

    BY ANDREW DEMILLO 
    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- Arkansas lawmakers overrode a veto Wednesday and gave the state the most restrictive abortion law in the country - a near-ban on the procedure from the 12th week of pregnancy onward that is certain to end up in court.

    A day after the Republican-led state Senate voted to override Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe's veto, the GOP-controlled House voted 56-33 to do the same. Only a simple majority was needed in each chamber.

    The vote comes less than a week after the Legislature overrode a veto of a separate bill banning most abortions starting in the 20th week of pregnancy. That bill took effect immediately after the final override vote, whereas the 12-week ban wouldn't take effect until this summer.

    Abortion rights proponents have already said they'll sue to block the 12-week ban from taking effect. Beebe warned lawmakers that both measures are likely to fail in court and that the state would end up wasting money defending them if they became law.

    The measures' supporters, who expected court challenges, were undaunted.

    "Not the governor, nor anyone else other than the courts, can determine if something is constitutional or unconstitutional," Rep. Bruce Westerman, a Republican from Hot Springs, said in urging his colleagues to override Beebe.

    Bill sponsor Sen. Jason Rapert, a Republican from Conway, watched the vote from the House gallery and said a number of law firms have offered to help the state defend the laws in court, if it comes to that.

    "I'm just grateful that this body has continued to stand up for the bills that have passed. The eyes of the entire nation were on the Arkansas House of Representatives today," he said.

    Beebe rejected both measures for the same reasons, saying they were unconstitutional and contradicted the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion until a fetus could viably survive outside the womb. A fetus is generally considered viable at 22 to 24 weeks.

    "The Arkansas Legislature has once again disregarded women's health care and passed the most extreme anti-women's health bill in the country," said Jill June, the CEO of Planned Parenthood of the Heartland. "With this bill, the Arkansas Legislature will force many women to seek unsafe care."

    The 12-week ban would prohibit abortions from the point when a fetus' heartbeat can typically be detected using an abdominal ultrasound. It includes exemptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother and highly lethal fetal disorders. The 20-week prohibition, which is based on the disputed claim that a fetus can feel pain by the 20th week and therefore deserves protection from abortion, includes all of the same exemptions except for fetal disorders.

    Six Democrats joined with Republicans in voting to override the veto of the 12-week ban. Last week, only two Democrats voted to override the veto of the 20-week ban.

    "I think a lot of people felt some pressure after the last vote," said House Minority Leader Greg Leding, a Democrat from Fayetteville.

    The measure is among several abortion restrictions lawmakers have backed since Republicans won control of the House and Senate in the November election. Republicans hold 21 of the 35 Senate seats, and 51 of the 100 seats in the House. It takes a simple majority in both chambers to override.

    Beebe has signed into law one of those measures, a prohibition on most abortion coverage by insurers participating in the exchange created under the health care law.

    Rep. Ann Clemmer, a Republican of Benton serving her third term in the House, asked her colleagues to support the override attempt, saying her votes on anti-abortion bills this year were the first time she could fully express a pro-life stand at the Capitol. When Democrats held control, such bills never made it this far.

    "If I say that I'm pro-life, at some point I have to do something about what I say I believe," said Clemmer, the bill's sponsor in the House.

    Unlike the 20-week ban, which took effect immediately, the 12-week restriction won't take effect until 90 days after the House and Senate adjourn. Lawmakers aren't expected to wrap up this year's session until later this month or April.

    In vetoing both measures, Beebe has cited the costs to the state if it has to defend either ban in court. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas has vowed to sue if the state enacts the 12-week ban and the group said it was considering legal action over the 20-week restriction as well.

    "I think today, for whatever reason, the Arkansas House turned its back on the women of Arkansas and said we don't think you're capable of making your own decisions," said Rita Sklar, ACLU of Arkansas' executive director. Sklar said the group planned to file suit in federal court in the next couple weeks.

    Beebe noted that the state paid nearly $148,000 to attorneys for plaintiffs who successfully challenged a 1997 late-term abortion ban.

    The original version of Rapert's bill would have banned abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, but he changed the measure after facing resistance from some lawmakers worried that it would require the use of a vaginal probe.

    Women who have abortions would not face prosecution under Rapert's bill, but doctors who perform abortions in violation of the 12-week ban could have their medical licenses revoked.

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    Im fine with this-who better to decide than the residents of AK?
    "The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

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    • BigMac5
      BigMac5 commented
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      Note to self, don't move to Arkansas.


    • Rimmer
      Rimmer commented
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      Davo17 wrote:
      Im fine with this-who better to decide than the residents of AK?
      "The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people."
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


      How about the woman who is carrying the child? Why is it everyone else right to chose what she decides to do with her own body? I don't get the argument (unless it's a religious one, and that I don't get either)..


    • gtrjones
      gtrjones commented
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      Davo17 wrote:
      Im fine with this-who better to decide than the residents of AK?
      "The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people."
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

      What do the residents of Alaska have to do with this in any way?


  • #3

    thanks for posting Davo. you beat me to it. for all you other folks who want to trash MY state, keep in mind that we have a balanced budget; we do not want anyone else from the northeast especially trying to influence lawmakers to do the NY style of government here(or Cali for that matter!). we want you to keep thinking we are possum eatin', sister lusting, Nascar watchin' rednecks.

     

    it' helps keep the property values and more importantly the taxes down!

    have a nice Arkansas day and you are invited to go fornicate yourselves!!

    how fortunate for governments, that the people do not think!In the past quarter century, we exposed biases against other races and called it racism, and we exposed biases against women and called it sexism. Biases against men we call humor.—Warren FarrellCanada: What Britain would become if it got fat and had its' nuts cut off.Obummer says I can has freeberty!

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    • moonlightin
      moonlightin commented
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      360vodka wrote:

      thanks for posting Davo. you beat me to it. for all you other folks who want to trash MY state, keep in mind that we have a balanced budget; we do not want anyone else from the northeast especially trying to influence lawmakers to do the NY style of government here(or Cali for that matter!). we want you to keep thinking we are possum eatin', sister lusting, Nascar watchin' rednecks.

       

      it' helps keep the property values and more importantly the taxes down!

      have a nice Arkansas day and you are invited to go fornicate yourselves!!


      I couldn't give a damn about your balanced budget. That has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. Having said that... I won't be visiting your state or doing any business with them whatsoever. If I order anything off Amazon, I don't care the costs, I WON'T be ordering from Arkansas. In short... I'll have nothing to do with Arkansas. I'd sooner go fornicate myself then have anything to do with a state run by old farts who want their hands up women's vaginas. So much for less gov't you hypocritical POS. (< piece of squid)


    • mdwagner73
      mdwagner73 commented
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      360vodka wrote:

      thanks for posting Davo. you beat me to it. for all you other folks who want to trash MY state, keep in mind that we have a balanced budget; we do not want anyone else from the northeast especially trying to influence lawmakers to do the NY style of government here(or Cali for that matter!). we want you to keep thinking we are possum eatin', sister lusting, Nascar watchin' rednecks.

       

      it' helps keep the property values and more importantly the taxes down!

      have a nice Arkansas day and you are invited to go fornicate yourselves!!


      Arkansas is a lazy, good for nothing welfare state sucking up $1.41 in Federal dollars for every $1 paid in taxes. 


    • madryan
      madryan commented
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      360vodka wrote:

      thanks for posting Davo. you beat me to it. for all you other folks who want to trash MY state, keep in mind that we have a balanced budget; we do not want anyone else from the northeast especially trying to influence lawmakers to do the NY style of government here(or Cali for that matter!). we want you to keep thinking we are possum eatin', sister lusting, Nascar watchin' rednecks.

       

      it' helps keep the property values and more importantly the taxes down!

      have a nice Arkansas day and you are invited to go fornicate yourselves!!


       

      You sure about that? 

       

      lol socialism

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  • #4
    Rimmer: Because it isn't simply her body which is at issue.

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  • #5
    Grarca: It's hers, and that of the child she wants to murder.

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      • #7

        Debated on whether I should start a new thread on this or insert it here.

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        • John Ellis
          John Ellis commented
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          moonlightin wrote:

          Debated on whether I should start a new thread on this or insert it here.


      • #8
        Didn't see that coming lol
        "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."“Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money.”― George Carlin"The founding fathers were well aware of rapid firing capabilities by the indians." - NormH

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