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  • Why did Obama just throw the Palestinians under the bus?

    He was the first president in modern memory who called Israel out on its tyranny and land-theft. Then, for no reason I can see, he goes grovelling back to Israel and re-affirms Israel's right to steal from and marginalize its minority population. 

    Why, Obama? Why did you have to turn your back on human rights and embrace evil?


  • #2

    Maybe you have a stilted view of what constitutes human rights and evil.

    What's your user name over on Stormfront?

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    • RogueGnome
      RogueGnome commented
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      tail wags dog.

      Israel always tells the US what to do.


    • clay sails
      clay sails commented
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      Mr.NiceGuy wrote:

      Maybe you have a stilted view of what constitutes human rights and evil.

      What's your user name over on Stormfront?


      You imply a man is a Nazi sympathizer just because he criticizes Israel's hypocritical & self-righteous land theft of the West Bank? Israelis have been colonizing Arab land for years. Its time they stopped. More importantly, its time the U.S. stops supporting them.


  • #3

    clay sails wrote:

    He was the first president in modern memory who called Israel out on its tyranny and land-theft. Then, for no reason I can see, he goes grovelling back to Israel and re-affirms Israel's right to steal from and marginalize its minority population. 

    Why, Obama? Why did you have to turn your back on human rights and embrace evil?


    To his credit, Obama did say peace depends on Palastinians right to their own State.

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    • #4

      It's not a thread without a link.

      A key quote gets Brownie points.

      Israel sucks. Until they stop sucking the Palestinians don't deserve criticism.

      "Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=4715

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      • Caulk Rocket
        Caulk Rocket commented
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        Because Israel will do whatever it wants so long as the US government keeps giving them welfare and AIPAC isn't registered as a foreign lobby (foreign lobbies can't donate to politicians).


      • bluzboy
        bluzboy commented
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        Minning Around wrote:

        It's not a thread without a link.

        A key quote gets Brownie points.

        Israel sucks. Until they stop sucking the Palestinians don't deserve criticism.


         

        LOL! Brilliant.

        The U.S. sucks, too, therefore al Qaeda doesn't deserve criticism.

         

        Again...****************ing brilliant!

         


    • #5

      Actually, in his speech today in Jerusalem, he made many of the points that critics of the Israeli occupation often make and to thunderous applause from the Israeli audience. It was unbelievable. I never thought I'd hear a US President say the things he did. I felt like some of the things I've said on this forum about Israeli policy were coming out of the President's mouth. It was quite astonishing to be honest. The problem is that the US is still going to support the settlement expansion, the separation wall, the ongoing chopping up of the West Bank into little cantons, the human rights violations and so forth and there will never be a Palestinian state and little by little Israel will take over the West Bank. So the end result is...Obama the hypocrite, again. 

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    • #6

      One interesting point Obama made in his speech was that if Israel continues with these policies, the settlement building, etc, they will still be supported unconditionally by the US but will become more and more isolated from the world community. Pretty amazing actually. 

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      • Davo17
        Davo17 commented
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        Zig al-din wrote:

        One interesting point Obama made in his speech was that if Israel continues with these policies, the settlement building, etc, they will still be supported unconditionally by the US but will become more and more isolated from the world community. Pretty amazing actually. 


        Israel has had to deal with world opinion for some time.

        They dont care, they will do what they need to do, like bomb Iran.


    • #7
      For a while now, the Palestinians have been saying they can't talk about a peace accord so long ad Israel is building settlements.

      Basically, Obama said yes you can, and once the peace treaty and borders are drawn up and each side has its own state, the settlement issue will resolve itself.

      He essentially placed the ball in the Palestinian court, and that's where it belongs.

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      • Zig al-din
        Zig al-din commented
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        mauser wrote:
        For a while now, the Palestinians have been saying they can't talk about a peace accord so long ad Israel is building settlements.

        Basically, Obama said yes you can, and once the peace treaty and borders are drawn up and each side has its own state, the settlement issue will resolve itself.

        He essentially placed the ball in the Palestinian court, and that's where it belongs.

         

        The settlements and the infrastructure that accompanies them make the Palestinian state impossible. That's the point. The media here never discusses that and never will, so I understand that Americans don't get it, but it's a fact.

        The hard-line faction that controls Israeli policy in this area know exactly what they are doing: keep blabbing about a 2 state solution,a partner for peace, etc and meanwhile the facts on the ground in the OT make it a moot point. 


      • Sloppy Santa
        Sloppy Santa commented
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        mauser wrote:
        For a while now, the Palestinians have been saying they can't talk about a peace accord so long ad Israel is building settlements.

        Basically, Obama said yes you can, and once the peace treaty and borders are drawn up and each side has its own state, the settlement issue will resolve itself.

        He essentially placed the ball in the Palestinian court, and that's where it belongs.

         

        Not really, no.

         

        If your country was controlled by a neighboring one, and that neighboring country decided to build Arab/Muslim-only settlements on your land (outside of internationally recognized borders); would you agree with the following:

         

        1) They are allowed to continue to do so

        2) You are not allowed to resist it using force

         

        ?

         

         

        Those are the prerequisites for "talks" that now exist, in practice.


    • #8

      clay sails wrote:

      Why did Obama just throw the Palestinians under the bus?


      I'm surprised there was room left for them there.

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