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  • Great argument for National Health Care, says Spock

    Smoking tobacco                                435,000
    Being overweight and obesity            111,909
    Alcohol                                                85,000
    Infectious diseases                             75,000
    Suicide                                                38,000
    Sexually transmitted disease              20,000
    Drug abuse                                        17,000

    So many of these people could be saved if they had access to good, preventive Health Care.  :womanhappy:

    I'd get upIf I knew I fell.

  • #2
    LOL
    I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

    Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

    What happens up north, stays up north

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    • camden22
      camden22 commented
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      national health care = live long and prosper.

      not part of the right wing agenda for the average joe.

  • #3
    Ever hear of that little place called Cuba? They have national healthcare and are renowned for having the best doctors IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
    😉

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    • coyote-1
      coyote-1 commented
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      SexWithRobots wrote:
      Ever hear of that little place called Cuba? They have national healthcare and are renowned for having the best doctors IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

      You are probably being facetious, and that's OK.

      The point of socialized medicine is NOT "we have the best, most costly new equipment and the best, most highly trained specialists". Those things, which I will call intensive care, can always be bought by the wealthy. The point of socialized medicine is to reduce the cost of basic care, while making it available to more people. If done correctly, more people live healthier for longer times before they need intensive care - thus reducing the overall outlay across the decades.

       

      Of course, the rightwing objects to being "dictated what to eat by Moochie", just like they object to being advised to inflate tires properly.

       

      big gulp

       

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    • Just Me
      Just Me commented
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      SexWithRobots wrote:
      Ever hear of that little place called Cuba? They have national healthcare and are renowned for having the best doctors IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.


      Ours aren't any better, they're just heavily insured.


    • Alecto
      Alecto commented
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      SexWithRobots wrote:
      Ever hear of that little place called Cuba? They have national healthcare and are renowned for having the best doctors IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

      Actually, according to the World Health Organization, Cuba is ranked 39th in the world for health care, life expectancy and infant mortality rate.  The USA is 42nd. 


  • #4

    .:Ed Phobes:. wrote:

    Smoking tobacco                                435,000
    Being overweight and obesity            111,909
    Alcohol                                                85,000
    Infectious diseases                             75,000
    Suicide                                                38,000
    Sexually transmitted disease              20,000
    Drug abuse                                        17,000

    So many of these people could be saved if they had access to good, preventive Health Care.  :womanhappy:


    Not all of them. But there are a lot of deaths and misery caused because of the lack of affordable health care. How about you do an experiment and see what the effect of good, affordable health care would be on  those who can't afford it?

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    • Ed
      Ed commented
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      The Badger wrote:



      Not all of them. But there are a lot of deaths and misery caused because of the lack of affordable health care. How about you do an experiment and see what the effect of good, affordable health care would be on  those who can't afford it?


      Well as I said, anytime a state wants to try its hand at a single payer insurance system, they are free to try.

      Until that time, I think all of this talk about how people want a single payer system is just talk. What the democrats really wanted was obamacare, and they got obamacare.

      So have fun with what they wanted.


  • #5
    Ed is supposed to live in Japan
    I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

    Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

    What happens up north, stays up north

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    • Ed
      Ed commented
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      55gibby wrote:
      Ed is supposed to live in Japan

      Which is entirely irrelevant. I know, I know... the kneejerk leftist reaction to change the topic of conversation to personalia.

      It doesnt work. Sorry, but my geographical location is not the topic of conversation.


  • #6
    What are you on about? I just answered his question
    I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

    Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

    What happens up north, stays up north

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    • Ed
      Ed commented
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      55gibby wrote:
      What are you on about? I just answered his question

      I know exactly how the conversation goes...

      A. Where do you live?

      me: Japan

      A: then you are being a hypocrite because you enjoy national health insurance.

      It's happened too many times, and the piss poor logic of it all has grown tiresome. The fact is that where I live and my particular health care insurance is not relevant to the discussion of national health care.

       


  • #7
    Ed doesn't answer direct questions
    I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

    Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

    What happens up north, stays up north

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    • #8
      See what I mean about answering direct questions
      I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

      Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

      What happens up north, stays up north

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      • #9
        National level is the only option
        I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

        Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

        What happens up north, stays up north

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        • #10
          Missed the point again ed
          I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

          Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

          What happens up north, stays up north

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          • #11
            Ed has no clue about health insurance or the economy of scale. State by state is the dumbest idea yet
            I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

            Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

            What happens up north, stays up north

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            • Ed
              Ed commented
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              As guido pointed out, Hawaii has done it. And if you think it is necessary to do it nationwide because states are too small, might I point out that San Marino has a national health insurance system, and it has a population of 30,000 people.

          • #12
            State by state is still a really crappy idea. One system is 50 times cheaper than state by state. State by state will dramatically reduce interstate commerce
            I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

            Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

            What happens up north, stays up north

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            • #13

              .:Ed Phobes:. wrote:

              Smoking tobacco                                435,000
              Being overweight and obesity            111,909
              Alcohol                                                85,000
              Infectious diseases                             75,000
              Suicide                                                38,000
              Sexually transmitted disease              20,000
              Drug abuse                                        17,000

              So many of these people could be saved if they had access to good, preventive Health Care.  :womanhappy:


              awesome

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              • #14
                Any free market advocate will tell you that the more people paying into the insurance system the better. There isn't an insurance company in the world who doesn't want MORE customers. So obviously 300 million Americans paying into a system will be better than 30 million Californians.

                Having said that, there might be something to your state-by-state proposal. Since the red states would not only be the most likely to not participate AND have the most unhealthy AND the poorest people, it might be better if they just opt out...
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                • #15
                  The state thing is still dumb.


                  Image living in one state, getting sick in another, then having a major medical hassle getting your treatment paid for. If I pay in one state, getting coverage in a different one could be a nightmare. This will make matters worse.
                  I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll be glad to take a look

                  Float like a butterfly, sting like VD

                  What happens up north, stays up north

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