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  • O.T. What Defines A Genius?

    Not in the traditional sense....having a large IQ....but in the "artistic" sense.

     

    The Beatles I feel were genius in their composing and song structure. Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms were geniuses in their compositions. Imagine writing a score for a full symphony orchestra.

     

    Or what about Lucas? His vision of Star wars could be described as a work of a genius.

     

    What do you think?

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    The Beatles were a group of people.  Can a group be a genius?

     

    Anybody I know who has been described as talented or genius shows strong OCD tendencies.

     

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    • Red Ant
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      A Genius is the one most like himself.

       

      - Thelonious Monk.


    • sirfun
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      Zipperhead wrote:

      The Beatles were a group of people.  Can a group be a genius?

       

       


      how 'bout the lone rangers ??


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    quickie1 wrote:

    Not in the traditional sense....having a large IQ....but in the "artistic" sense.

     

    The Beatles I feel were genius in their composing and song structure. Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms were geniuses in their compositions. Imagine writing a score for a full symphony orchestra.

     

    Or what about Lucas? His vision of Star wars could be described as a work of a genius.

     

    What do you think?


    I have written a score for a full symphony orchestra, but I'm certainly no genius.  Maybe that's why it never got played!

    It's a good question as to what defines a genius.  Personally I think George Lucas may well be a genius, but what would I think if his work hadn't been popular?  Is John Lennon more of a genius than fro example Robert Fripp simply because his work was more widely appreciated?  Wouldn't that make Justin Bieber a genius by default.

    To me, one thing that all musical and artistic geniuses have in common is that they were/are to some extent innovators. Of course, not all innovators are geniuses, so the definition gets complicated.

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    • Ed
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      A genius is able to make unique connections that are true. Artistic geniuses do the same. The only difference is that they combine that with the ability to communicate this truth.

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    I think the genius is in how you do things.

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    • quickie1
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      moonlightin wrote:

      I think the genius is in how you do things.


      In this case, I'm a genius in the bedroom.


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    quickie1 wrote:

    Not in the traditional sense....having a large IQ....but in the "artistic" sense.

     

    The Beatles I feel were genius in their composing and song structure. Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms were geniuses in their compositions. Imagine writing a score for a full symphony orchestra.

     

    Or what about Lucas? His vision of Star wars could be described as a work of a genius.

     

    What do you think?


    I think The Beatles were a synergistic union. I don't know that any of them were (or weren't) geniuses.

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    • #6

      Was Louis Armstrong a genius?

      Or just a musician with immense talent and grace?

      flip the phase

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      • sirfun
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        gubu wrote:

        Was Louis Armstrong a genius?

        Or just a musician with immense talent and grace?


        Yes !!

         

        and Hank is the GOAT !!


      • bluzboy
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        gubu wrote:

        Was Louis Armstrong a genius?

        Or just a musician with immense talent and grace?


         

        He was a giant in terms of innovation.  

        I'm not sure if he was a genius or not.


    • #7

      quickie1 wrote:

      Not in the traditional sense....having a large IQ....but in the "artistic" sense.

       

      The Beatles I feel were genius in their composing and song structure. Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms were geniuses in their compositions. Imagine writing a score for a full symphony orchestra.

       

      Or what about Lucas? His vision of Star wars could be described as a work of a genius.

       

      What do you think?


      When you move "genius" into personal opinion, it kind of kick the barrier down & can lead to a lot of "unworthy" genius'. You have "brilliant", "innovative", "extraordinary", "exceptional
      "...etc for descriptive purposes.

      Genius in the context of personal opinion, definitely will have a tendency to lose it's value..

      ''All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"--Edmund Burke
      Man created science to create what man wants science to create.

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