Members VladM Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm a mostly self taught outsider to the industry. I'm dirt poor and I have no other life to choose. The day job market is too competitive for my tastes... but don't think twice, it's alright: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niceguy Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 Cool. I'm signing you RIGHT. NOW...... Aaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnd......... You're signed. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 We don't sign work-shy artists who play other peoples songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VladM Posted July 16, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 My catalog has 65 songs in it. 2 albums ready for recording. I'm not just gonna let the cat out of the bag. It takes time to get discovered these days. I can write a new song in like 10-15 minutes. A record label has to prove to me that they are good enough to carry my catalog. I think the label has to prove itself just as much as the artist. Just like an employer has to prove themselves to the employee. It works both ways. If I were out in the job market I would need an employer who would guarantee me a living wage after 40 intense hours of work every single week. The employer needs to prove to me that I can survive if I commit to that particular employer. A living wage for one adult is about $15/hour in this economy. To save up for a family it takes two adults making over $20/hr each. I need the guarantee that I will survive on my own if I commit to an employer. So far the best guarantee I've had was $9.50 per hour and I'm sorry but that's just not a living wage in 2012. That's not good enough. The job market is failing me. I can do more with my time than work for $9.50 per hour, come home exhausted from physical labor, and repeat like this forever with no hope for a raise or promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny-Boy Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 A record label has to prove to me that they are good enough to carry my catalog - VladM Lots of luck. Better get focused on reality. I mean that respectfully. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 My catalog has 65 songs in it. 2 albums ready for recording. I'm not just gonna let the cat out of the bag. It takes time to get discovered these days.I can write a new song in like 10-15 minutes. A record label has to prove to me that they are good enough to carry my catalog.I think the label has to prove itself just as much as the artist. Just like an employer has to prove themselves to the employee. It works both ways.If I were out in the job market I would need an employer who would guarantee me a living wage after 40 intense hours of work every single week. The employer needs to prove to me that I can survive if I commit to that particular employer. A living wage for one adult is about $15/hour in this economy. To save up for a family it takes two adults making over $20/hr each. I need the guarantee that I will survive on my own if I commit to an employer. So far the best guarantee I've had was $9.50 per hour and I'm sorry but that's just not a living wage in 2012. That's not good enough. The job market is failing me. I can do more with my time than work for $9.50 per hour, come home exhausted from physical labor, and repeat like this forever with no hope for a raise or promotion. All very nice, only I never heard any of your song, A letter of approval stating that we are worthy to market your song catalogue is on the way to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VladM Posted July 16, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah the reality that the job market is brutal for 20-somethings and there seems to be no hope in sight. When one of the presidential candidates made his fortune outsourcing American jobs overseas you know this country is doomed to fail. I had a chance at a job but they chose an illegal who knew no English. I'm serious. The illegal did not speak any English and he had to train me. I was out-producing him after two weeks. They choose illegals, not me. The employers chose. No, they're not "undocumented workers" they are indeed illegal aliens who invaded America as an army of one and now they're sabotaging the nation. I'm an immigrant but I came the correct way. I should be employed making money but there's an illegal working my job instead. No joke. For a 24 year old man with no obligations tying him down, it is much easier to break into the music business doing stuff online than it is to break into full time employment. That is reality. I don't care much for stable family life and I don't want to be rich. I might as well try music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JVGM-music Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 A record label has to prove to me that they are good enough to carry my catalog.I. That's the spirit! But i am afraid labels might not think this way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 That's the spirit!But i am afraid labels might not think this way..... JVGM, We sign your music anythime you want to. We listen to your songs a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 16, 2012 Members Share Posted July 16, 2012 We're being punked, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 We're being punked, right? VladM punks himself with every word he posts no person other than himself want to hear. He posted just about everything a record company doesn't want in an artist, except his fabulous songs. It seems he feels the euphoric force of his youth, I understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcpatte2 Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 We're being punked, right? I surely hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VladM Posted July 17, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 When I hit my 30's the creativity will die. All I'm saying is, it would be nice to have pro quality records while I still have the chance. Once the youth is gone that's it, it is a one way road. Once its gone, its gone and there's no getting it back. Past 30, its over. The youthful energy and creativity will disappear forever. I'm not naieve I know it doesn't last and once its gone, its gone for good. Nobody's youthful sparks last forever once they're gone the book is shut. I think it is important to have pro quality records from one's youth. Once the youth is gone it is never, ever coming back no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niceguy Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 Also, to VladM: I suggest you visit a psychiatric emergency room and get treated for schizophrenia, before you hurt yourself. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny-Boy Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 When I hit my 30's the creativity will die. Huh!!! You're kidding me. I should have quit 33 years ago. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueGreene Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 Of course, nobody in their right mind actually believes this... [i've been wrong] You know, record companies are kind of like Women. Just walk right up and ask if they will marry you. Tell them you think the market is too competitive to put in the effort and that you're dirt poor and need the support (they really love that part). Then, when they're begging you to put a ring on it, tell them that once you're 30, there will be no more drive. No spark. That'll really seal the deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 Huh!!! You're kidding me. I should have quit 33 years ago. John you should have been dead since since 33 years, that's not exactly the same, the difference is you would be a legend by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny-Boy Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 you should have been dead since since 33 years, that's not exactly the same, the difference is you would be a legend by now Yeah, a legend in my own mind. I'd rather be an active composer, than an inactive legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah, a legend in my own mind. I'd rather be an active composer, than an inactive legend. I hope you can avoid the last completly, you very likely would be the first composer who is active forever, the Highlander wasn't composing, as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VladM Posted July 17, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 Huh!!! You're kidding me. I should have quit 33 years ago. John As long as I don't get married or have kids it should stay alive. All I know is kids and marriage means death to the artist. History doesn't lie. People who have kids turn into workers and parents for 18 years and all free time is gone justlikethatover. Then the kids grow up and they grow old themselves and then the mid-life crisis hits them hard and brutal. History doesn't lie. Also buying a house is one thing that I must avoid at all costs. They don't call it mortgage just for no reason. Its a lifelong commitment to paying money to a bank until you're dead. It's the apartment lifestyle for me forever. Best way to die is alone, in your sleep, in your own apartment, on your own terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 haha I don't even know how many kids I have, and I am a musician since 42 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny-Boy Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 As long as I don't get married or have kids it should stay alive. All I know is kids and marriage means death to the artist. Huh!!! I have children and have been married 43 years. As far as I know my composing has gotten better through the years. Marriage and children can be inspiring. Some of my best ideas have come from them. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted July 17, 2012 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2012 Vlad, the reality is the record companies won't sign you until you have sold enough product on your own that you don't need them. Plus the money/income stream for the artist is not in record sales anymore, it is the touring and merch sales... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted July 17, 2012 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah, a legend in my own mind. I'd rather be an active composer, than an inactive legend. actively composing vs. inactively decomposing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 17, 2012 Members Share Posted July 17, 2012 record companies sign artist when they are mainstream, when the product has a commercial value,,and about selling music ---> never before in the history of recorded music so many songs where sold as last year, however the music industry is an idustrial dwarf, you better look for a job in the finance industry, but write a better letter of application then this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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