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  • RIP Davey Jones...


    One of the heroes of my youth.
    http://www.patcoast.com"The guy would be strumming along, singing the verse to “Margarittavile” and then he would hit his harmonizer pedal for the chorus. It went from sounding like a guy singing and playing guitar to sounding like the Stephen Hawkings trio."-Christhee68" the singer of my cover band used to find it funny to let out gaseous forms of vile hate and sadness that would make a plaster baby Jesus weep."- FitchFY

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    Just saw that. Wow, only 66 years old! I didn't realize he was so young when The Monkees existed.

    Before my time, but I enjoyed watching the reruns in the '70s and early '80s. Fun show. It was also eye-opening as I became a musician to realize that what we see and what we think is happening isn't always the case (as in, the band didn't write or play their own instruments, at least not at first).

    I always thought he was funny and charismatic. Sad that he is gone.

    Here's to you, Davy Jones.
    (This is my Non-Signature.)

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    • #3
      Actually, Mike Nesmith was a guy who had chops and wrote. It's also an interesting bit of trivia that Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees and failed.
      http://www.patcoast.com"The guy would be strumming along, singing the verse to “Margarittavile” and then he would hit his harmonizer pedal for the chorus. It went from sounding like a guy singing and playing guitar to sounding like the Stephen Hawkings trio."-Christhee68" the singer of my cover band used to find it funny to let out gaseous forms of vile hate and sadness that would make a plaster baby Jesus weep."- FitchFY

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      • #4
        Actually, Mike Nesmith was a guy who had chops and wrote. It's also an interesting bit of trivia that Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees and failed.


        Yeah, some interesting stories about the Monkees and how all that came about and progressed. Nesmith did contribute a couple of songs, but other than lead vocals, none of the guys played or sang anything on the first two albums. Peter Tork isn't on the first album at all. But they were expected to go on tour and therefore had to kinda-sorta learn how to play. Dolenz had no prior drumming experience whatsoever. There's a classic story about Nesmith deciding to stand up for the band, going into a meeting with Don Kirshner and the producers of the show and threatening to punch Kirshner if they aren't allowed to have more input on the next albums and instead punched a hole in the wall. Kirshner quit/was fired after that incident and the next album featured the boys playing most of the instruments themselves. Apparently that was a pretty laborious process and for the subsequent albums they took more of a "use the good studio players and contribute when and where it makes sense" approach.

        Kirshner went on to make hit records with The Archies, apparently deciding that if you're going to make to records with non-musicians fronting the band, it's easier if they are animated.

        They got a lot of crap for not playing anything on those early records which, I don't think would have been nearly so controversial (it WAS a TV show afterall) except the records CLAIM that they did and make no mention of any other players.

        Sorry to hear about Davy. The Monkees are definately a part of my youth and, for good bad or otherwise, I'm not sure we'll ever see anything QUITE like all of that again..
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        • #5
          Actually, Mike Nesmith was a guy who had chops and wrote. It's also an interesting bit of trivia that Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees and failed.


          Don't know if it's urban legend but I've been told Charles Manson auditioned too!

          ooooops just checked and apparently it is an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/monkees.asp

          nevermind
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          • #6
            Don't know if it's urban legend but I've been told Charles Manson auditioned too!

            ooooops just checked and apparently it is an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/monkees.asp

            nevermind



            I think that after all of that a LOT of people probably "remembered" seeing Charles Manson standing in line at auditions and various other places around LA....
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            • #7
              Actually, Mike Nesmith was a guy who had chops and wrote. It's also an interesting bit of trivia that Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees and failed.


              Mike's mother also invented Liquid Paper.
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              • #8
                They got a lot of crap for not playing anything on those early records which, I don't think would have been nearly so controversial (it WAS a TV show afterall) except the records CLAIM that they did and make no mention of any other players. .


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                • #9
                  Mike's mother also invented Liquid Paper.



                  Yep.
                  And that ridiculous money is part of why he's never been keen on reunions; he'd take a massive pay cut to be in anything the Monkees cold ever have done.
                  For cripe's sake, somebody buy that kid a freaking DICTIONARY already!

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                  • #10
                    Yep.
                    And that ridiculous money is part of why he's never been keen on reunions; he'd take a massive pay cut to be in anything the Monkees cold ever have done.


                    Well, presumably he could go on a Monkees reunion tour and STILL collect his share of his mother's royaties from Liquid Paper. But, certainly he probably didn't NEED to do it as much as the others maybe did.
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                    • #11
                      Nesmith wrote way more than just a couple of songs and some of them were pretty damn good - he sort of blew any future credibility tho by doing the Monkees thing - Stephen Stills dodged a bullet there - lol - thanks to his bad teeth......

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                      • #12
                        Nesmith wrote way more than just a couple of songs and some of them were pretty damn good


                        Agreed. When I said "a couple of songs" I was referring to the first two albums on which the Monkees themselves did nothing but sing lead. He wrote two songs and shared writing credits on two others. One of the ones he wrote for those early albums, "Mary Mary", is one of my all-time favorite Monkees songs.
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                        • #13
                          I have this Nesmith album, its pretty darn good

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                          • #14
                            Nesmith did contribute a couple of songs, but other than lead vocals, none of the guys played or sang anything on the first two albums. Peter Tork isn't on the first album at all.


                            You can't really tell because he was one of several guitar players on the tracks, but Peter did play some of the guitar on the Nesmith produced songs on that ended up on the first album. He also sang some of the background vocals on the record.

                            According to Nesmith, Tork was actually the most talented/experienced player in the band from an instrumental standpoint.

                            There's a great book, The Monkees: The Day-By-Day Story of the 60s TV Pop Sensation, that came out awhile back that goes into a lot of detail about almost all of their recording sessions, including who played or sang what. Besides a lot of the regular sessions guys from that time period (Campell, Hal Blaine, etc...) there are some other familiar names, like Harry Nillsson, Jerry Yester from the Lovin Spoonful, and several members of the Buffalo Springfield, including Neil Young and Stills.

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                            • #15
                              You can't really tell because he was one of several guitar players on the tracks, but Peter did play some of the guitar on the Nesmith produced songs on that ended up on the first album. He also sang some of the background vocals on the record.

                              According to Nesmith, Tork was actually the most talented/experienced player in the band from an instrumental standpoint.

                              There's a great book, The Monkees: The Day-By-Day Story of the 60s TV Pop Sensation, that came out awhile back that goes into a lot of detail about almost all of their recording sessions, including who played or sang what. Besides a lot of the regular sessions guys from that time period (Campell, Hal Blaine, etc...) there are some other familiar names, like Harry Nillsson, Jerry Yester from the Lovin Spoonful, and several members of the Buffalo Springfield, including Neil Young and Stills.


                              Hmm... I seem to remember reading that book and that being where I got the information that the boys themselves contributing nothing to the sessions of the first two albums beside the lead vocals. But perhaps I'm mistaken.
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