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  • #16






    Quote Originally Posted by wesg
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    I won't join any group that doesn't already have a drummer and a bass player.




    OR . . . you could get in on the ground floor and have some say in who signs on. A lot of musos aren't "keyboard compatible". . . . or maybe it's just me.



    Having said that, I'm not schlepping a lot of gear to rehearsals unless I'm confident the project will pan out.



    OR . . . do what I did and trade an old synth for a set of drums and host rehearsals!!

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    • #17






      Quote Originally Posted by wesg
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      What are you hauling that weighs that much??




      Ya know ... I find myself asking the same question. Here's how it breaks down:



      Keyboard Rack: Motif ES Rack Unit, Motu MidiExpressXt, PSM200 IEM Transceiver, Rackmount Power Conditioner, snake cable, 6u Flight case - 90 lbs.

      CP300: 71.6 lbs plus case (30 lbs) ... 101 lbs

      Korg Kronos: 50.7 lbs plus case (25 lbs).... 75 lbs

      Yamaha DSR112 powered speakers: 47 lbs + bag (9 lbs) = 56 lbs x 2 speakers

      Keyboard Miscellanous - pedals, cables, mics, tools, gig miscellaneous - 75 lbs

      Bench: 14 lbs

      Stand: 28 lbs



      Total: 495 lbs.



      No matter how you slice it - that **************** simply adds up quick!
      The SpaceNorman

      www.facebook.com/SuperstarsOfRock
      www.souldoutrocks.com

      Keyboards and Tone Generators: Yamaha CP300, Kronos 88, Roland AX Synth, Motif ES Rack
      Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
      Stage Amplification: Stereo via 2 Yamaha DSR112s

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      • #18
        The snake and speakers - do those count as PA gear, or is that just what you use to monitor yourself and feed the sound guy? They look like PA tops, but would make one heck of a "keyboard amp"! ..... I just read your signature. Okay. You have one heck of rig, 2600W of stage monitoring, holy crap. I guess you can never have too much headroom.



        I also had no idea the CP300 and Kronos weighed that much; that was my primary complaint about the PF-85 when I still hauling it around town. But that thing is built like a tank, steel case with a wood base.



        Glad to see I'm not the only guy who brings tools to gigs. I also started bringing a cordless mechanic's work light. Makes hooking up my crap in a dark environment so much easier.
        Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?

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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by wesg
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          The snake and speakers - do those count as PA gear, or is that just what you use to monitor yourself and feed the sound guy? They look like PA tops, but would make one heck of a "keyboard amp"! ..... I just read your signature. Okay. You have one heck of rig, 2600W of stage monitoring, holy crap. I guess you can never have too much headroom.




          In my case the snake and speakers are part of my keyboard rig and not the FOH or general "vocal" monitor system.



          My keyboard "snake" is a custom built snake cable I purchased through www.redco.com. It's an 8 channel cable that carries 4 TRS connections (Left and Right Outputs) and 4 MIDI connections (MIDI IN and MIDI OUT) from each keyboard. The "fan" on the keyboard end of the cable is custom length - so that the connectors end up in the perfect spot for each board - and allows me to "dress" the cable neatly along the supports of the keyboard stand. The "rack" end of the snake is prepatched into my mixer and the MOTO MidiExpressXT interface. The snake "lives" in the unused rack space for transport and storage. Setup is simple - pop of the rack covers, plug the rack's power cable in, extend the snake cable and patch into the keyboards. The back of the rack has a patch panel with XLR jacks for the outputs to my stage monitors, a pair of 1/4" jacks that I use to connect up either an iPod or Laptop to when I want to play "recorded material" through my rig (helpful when learning new stuff....). There is also a pair of 1/4" TRS jacks that provide a stereo send to the FOH board - as well as a single 1/4" TRS input that accepts an AUX send that delivers my "monitor mix" from the FOH board (i.e., vocals and any other instrument that I want in my monitor mix). The rack is heavy - but definitely makes for a simple and clean setup.



          My stage monitors are simply powered speakers - in that same class of speakers like the JBL PRX612M or QSC K12 that many keyboard players are using these days. The Yamaha DSRs are a bit heavier than most - but not enough to kill me. At the time I purchased them, the manufacterer's rebate that was offered made them the most cost effective deal out there. I love how my rig sounds in stereo - so I'm stuck carrying two of 'em. It isn't light - but damn it sounds good! The headroom means that my amplification never struggles to keep up (so it never gets that "clanky" tone that so many keyboard amplification rigs end up at when they start getting pushed). Carrying the extra cabinet is a minor price to pay for the pleasure I get out of sitting in the middle of my own little stereo field. I feel inspired by the way my rig sounds - and that's something I can't say for many of the amplification setups I've used before.



          The case that I use for my "keyboard misc" stuff is one of those rolling tool cases (roughly the size of a medium sized cooler - with a tray on top, and storage space beneath it. I've got a good selection of cable adaptors (XLR to 1/4" TRS) and "Y" cable; a cable testor, a couple of mics, the body pack for my PSM200 IEMs, batteries for my AX Synth, etc. - along with a roll of gaffers tape, a couple of screwdrivers, a pair of needle nosed pliers, a couple of small adjustable wrenchs, a couple of LED flashlights, etc. It doesn't take long for that stuff to add up to some real weight. It rolls - so it's not that bad - but it does need to get lifted in and out of the van. I view it as coming with the territory.



          I made my peace with the fact that playing keyboards means I'm gonna be schlepping a significant pile of gear. The typical venues I work allow me to pull up close to the entrance to load / unload. A handtruck means I'm not actually carrying the weight. The piece count (# of pieces of gear that need to move) means I make a few trips between stage and vehicle ... but not so much that it kills me.
          The SpaceNorman

          www.facebook.com/SuperstarsOfRock
          www.souldoutrocks.com

          Keyboards and Tone Generators: Yamaha CP300, Kronos 88, Roland AX Synth, Motif ES Rack
          Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
          Stage Amplification: Stereo via 2 Yamaha DSR112s

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          • #20
            The bigger your network the easier it will be. Be friendly, open, and put yourself out there and it will expand. I don't go out as nearly much as I should, but I am working on it.



            One thing about responding to ads vs. placing them..... I did that when I first moved and what I found was it was easy to see why the bandleaders were having to resort to craigslist to find people. They were difficult to deal with and the musicians that knew their personalities were difficult to deal with. However, I met a lot of people in the brief time I played with each of them and towards the end started exchanging contact info. At some of the auditions I would meet another musician I clicked with, but couldn't really ask for their contact info in front of the band leader. Maybe one way around that would be putting it out in the open that everyone should exchange contact info? I'm not sure how you get around that.



            Anyways, through one of those bands I met a guy who I played with regularly for about two years. He knew people who were good musicians and good people, so it worked out really well.



            You just have to put yourself out there until you find something worth investing your time into.
            http://www.reverbnation.com/thedubiouscapture

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            • #21
              At some of the auditions I would meet another musician I clicked with, but couldn't really ask for their contact info in front of the band leader. Maybe one way around that would be putting it out in the open that everyone should exchange contact info? I'm not sure how you get around that.


              Just hand 'em your card on the way out, or better yet, hand everyone your card when you arrive.
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