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    Which ones? . . . . How do they go over? . . . . etc.



    We added Jaco's "Chicken" to you set list after an impromptu jam, but I'm wondering how it will go over if and when we play it.



    A couple years ago, we played Booker T's "Time is Tight" as an opener.



    The Meter's "Cissy Strut" seems to get called at jams whenever a keyboard player sits in.



    I considered putting together an all-instrumental fusion trio, but I'm not sure it would have had any commercial success, nor am I sure I could have pulled it off musically . . . at least to my satisfaction.

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    Unpossible. It's all about the vocals. Additional negative points for Jaco content - obviously no one wants to hear that stuff.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rsadasiv
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      Unpossible. It's all about the vocals. Additional negative points for Jaco content - obviously no one wants to hear that stuff.




      It's all about the vocals for bands that have vocals. Nothing is worse than bad vocals.



      There are all sorts of bands that do great with instrumentals-only: jazz groups, easy listening/background/cocktail groups, flamenco, etc.
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        Quote Originally Posted by guido61
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        It's all about the vocals for bands that have vocals. Nothing is worse than bad vocals.



        There are all sorts of bands that do great with instrumentals-only: jazz groups, easy listening/background/cocktail groups, flamenco, etc.




        Why can't you be this reasonable all the time?
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          Quote Originally Posted by rsadasiv
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          Why can't you be this reasonable all the time?




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          • #6
            We occasionally do Time Is Tight in the Clash tribute...they used to use it as pre-show and recorded a version where they kind of took the piss out of the Sex Pistols as well.
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            • #7
              "Wipeout"



              Seriously, I've seen it go over bigtime - go figure .

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                "Wipeout"



                Seriously, I've seen it go over bigtime - go figure .

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                • #9
                  In the funk/R&B dance thing I was a part of, we usually started out the night with an instrumental: Mr Magic by Grover Washington, Snakes by Marcus Miller, The Chicken by Maceo Parker (Fred Wesley wrote it BTW), Watermelon Man by Herbie H.....stuff like that. All of it funky, and the 3 upfront singers would introduce the soloists, and do simple unison dances while we played. They stepped like the Chi-lites and we blew our brains out.



                  It worked great to warm up the crowd and got us warmed up too.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by 3shiftgtr
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                    They stepped like the Chi-lites and we blew our brains out.




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                    • #11
                      From what I've seen, it's not a matter of whether one plays instrumentals or vocal tunes; it's a matter of familiarity. If everyone in the crowd knows the song and the band can halfway do it, it will usually work....vocals or not.



                      In fact, if the song is something of a departure from the rest of the set, then it can actually be a highlight, and one the most memorable aspects of the show.



                      My band is mostly a 70's-thru-90's classic rock band....but we occasionally throw Wipe-Out into the set, and the crowd always eats it up. (It seems that cheese and campiness always go over well.) We used to have a locally prominent jazz/funk/jam band here in town that would absolutely bring down the house with extended renditions of the Barney Miller and the Sanford and Son theme songs.



                      I would just be make sure and differentiate between instrumentals that musicians would consider to be "standards", as opposed to instrumentals that would appeal to the average listener. For example, you could play Rush's YYZ for a room of musicians and rock aficionados, and they'd eat it up. But if you played it at a wedding, it would be like a fart in church.



                      Personally, I'd probably stay away from the "musician" instrumentals, and focus on stuff that's more recognizable and a bit more mainstream. But I'd also try to find something with a pop-culture/novelty angle, as well. The Simpsons theme song, for example....or the instantly-recognizable Super Mario Brothers music. Stuff that's just as much fun for the audience as it is for the band, y'know?

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                      • #12
                        Totally depends on the crowd, what type of band, what genre, etc.
                        Music, music, I hear music

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                        • #13
                          I play in a Billy Joel tribute band and we open most shows with "Prelude/Angry Young Man" which has about 2 minutes of instrumental before any vocals. Any casual Joel fans in the crowd will likely not recognize it but we dig opening the show that way.



                          We also play "I Go To Extremes" and our keyboardist throws in a bunch of pop culture references at the end such as the Simpsons theme, Hee Haw, the Muppets, etc. It's fun and perks up the crowd.
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                          • #14
                            I just joined what is currently a three piece (bass, drums, guitar) fusion band about a month ago. So far we have...



                            Stratus - Billy Cobham

                            School Days, the Dancer - Stanley Clarke

                            Cause We Ended as Lovers, Led Boots - Jeff Beck

                            Rampage - Marcus Miller

                            3 of bandleader's originals



                            I don't have the list and am forgetting some of the covers. We'll probably add Cissy Strut. We could really use a good keys player. And yes.... I don't see it having much "commercial" success. The band leader of the last band I was playing with couldn't get his price, so he essentially pulled the plug. I have always been interested in this type of music, but never had the courage to try and really do it until now. The only way to get there is to get out there and do it. I imagine at best we will play charity type events once a month or so. It has really been a kick in the butt for me musically though and these guys are turning me on to a lot of really cool music as well. Everyone involved realizes what type of gigs will, and won't, be available for this project.
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                              Quote Originally Posted by Yer Blues
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                              I just joined what is currently a three piece (bass, drums, guitar) fusion band about a month ago. So far we have...



                              Stratus - Billy Cobham

                              School Days, the Dancer - Stanley Clarke

                              Cause We Ended as Lovers, Led Boots - Jeff Beck

                              Rampage - Marcus Miller

                              3 of bandleader's originals



                              I don't have the list and am forgetting some of the covers. We'll probably add Cissy Strut. We could really use a good keys player. And yes.... I don't see it having much "commercial" success. The band leader of the last band I was playing with couldn't get his price, so he essentially pulled the plug. I have always been interested in this type of music, but never had the courage to try and really do it until now. The only way to get there is to get out there and do it. I imagine at best we will play charity type events once a month or so. It has really been a kick in the butt for me musically though and these guys are turning me on to a lot of really cool music as well. Everyone involved realizes what type of gigs will, and won't, be available for this project.




                              Say bro, I released an instrumental trio record and worked it for a couple of years. We don't play much anymore as the bassist has moved about 3 hours away and the drummer took a gig with a Canadian artist and is never home.



                              But you can build a following for this stuff. Our stuff could get pretty weird and our covers could be as much a challenge for the listener as they were for us (Chromazone by Mike Stern, Trim by John Scofield, Cogent by Rodney Kendrick etc.). But we did have some "normal" sounding stuff, and plenty of funk stuff too. The first 2 & 1/2 years we hit it pretty hard.



                              1) Get a regular gig. Weekly or monthly. Weekdays are good (ours was the Tues of each month) in a college town or a place with a good 20 something crowd. Ours was a hip little bohemian place with import beers, a nice humidor, and local art on the wall. I plastered the campus and hit the local media the first couple of gigs. Over time we would see the same faces, but it took some time. Grad students and dirty hippies, baby.



                              2) We did 4 cd release parties. 2 in my hometown and 1 in Nashville and one in a college town that we had the residence in. We basically made our money back for the project and then some in those 4 gigs.



                              3) Pacing. Music lovers are your target and they're paying attention. They want to be moved. So attention needs to be paid to making each solo tell a story. And each tune needs to follow the next in a cogent way. We started each set out with a killer, then brought it down, then a ballad, then something funky, something weird, then the barn burner. Always have a barn burner and make sure the soloists don't blow their load before it.



                              I remember a conversation I was having with Regi Wooten, and he was talking about how even the best players get caught up in the songs, and they don't PACE their set to provide NARRATIVE throughout the set. That narrative is what sets bands apart.



                              4) Have something to sell. Yeah, we made some gig money. Mostly at festivals....which are a bitch to get when you play fusion cuz the rock people hate you, and the jass people REALLY hate you...but we made our way in a few after they saw us....but we made our money selling cd's and tshirts.



                              We also often did a "freemium" thing starting on our 3rd year. At some point in the night I'd say "If you like what you hear, I want you to come over here and grab a cd. Pay what you can. If you spent all your money on beer cool, whatever, just pay what you can. But don't go home without a cd." Averaged about $6. A nice way to help dump your surplus discs and grab some good will.



                              We even sold some demo discs for $3 of the stuff we were working on for our next cd. Sold a **************** pile of those.



                              So there ya go.
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