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  • #31
    If you're singing: front and center. If not, off to the side as already described. Simple. NEXT


    Yea I seen Rare Earth at bar about 15 years ago who had his drums where the lead singer would be, but he was the lead singer and dug how he would stand and play at times. Great musician and great band with unorthodox method of having his drums in the singer spot light.

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    • #32
      I've always hated playing guitar (or in my case bass) from behind the keyboards. In the last band where i played both we'd set up as if we were a 5-piece band (there were four of us), with the bass player (me) set up in front of the keyboards (which were facing front), so that i could move between the two positions. This setup works best if you can arrange the setlist to minimize switching between instruments, i.e. at most once per set. And if space is really tight you can push the keyboards back against the backline when playing out front.

      - Jimbo

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      • #33
        I also just opened up a box with my new keytar inside last night! ....


        So ... what'd you add to your rig? One of the new Alesis Vortex units?
        The SpaceNorman

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        Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
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        • #34
          So ... what'd you add to your rig? One of the new Alesis Vortex units?


          Yes! Seems pretty cool. Still deciding what's the best way to work it into the rig as an controller since I don't have a dedicated midi unit. Right now I'm thinking I'll just use a MidiMerge and let both the Motif and the Vortex control the Kronos at will. I was hoping to use the Vortex to control Motif sounds as well, but I don't think that's gonna happen easily without getting something like your Motu MIDI Express.

          BTW, how do you like that M-Audio Wireless MIDI?
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          • #35
            I don't need a lot of keys for what we currently do so I made a stand for a 25 key controller. I've had the full key stack with an XS6 and an S90ES and just stood behind the keys to play guitar parts. Now, I have this slightly off to one side, but in front of me so I don't have to mess with the mic placement. Works well. My Motif Rack ES and guitar amp are all rack mounted, so I setup pretty quickly as I just have to drop a rack on stage and plug myself in.

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            • #36



              Our singer has started adding keys on some songs and this is pretty close to what he does.
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              • #37
                ...how do you like that M-Audio Wireless MIDI?


                I've got mixed feelings about the M-Audio Wireless MIDI rig. In my rig - I have the wireless "transceiver" unit wired into my keyboard rack. The MIDI Outof the "transceiver" runs directly into one of the MIDI "IN" ports on the Motu MidiExpress - which means I simply power up the wireless transmitter "bodypack" (which I have taped to the body of my AX Synth) - and I'm immediately wireless. The mixed feelings part is that the range of the device is VERY limited. During soundcheck ... I can usually wander anywhere up to 40 ft from the base station ... but, one the dance floor is filled ... that range drops such that I'm basically able to walk out to the front of the stage ... 15 feet or so from the base station with confidence. After that - it gets iffy! Again, it works great ... but has an very limited range.
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                Keyboards and Tone Generators: Yamaha CP300, Kronos 88, Roland AX Synth, Motif ES Rack
                Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
                Stage Amplification: Stereo via 2 Yamaha DSR112s

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                • #38
                  Usually at an angle to my left, as I'm left-handed and so my guitar is pointing right. That way my guitar neck isn't in the way when I need them.


                  I never have a problem with this...but I'm tall and my guitar neck sits comfortably above the keyboard. I'm kinda weird in that I also put my mic stand to my front-left (and I'm a righty guitar player).

                  It's more comfortable for me that way because more often than not I'm standing closer to the center of the stage next to our singer anyways.
                  Christian

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                  Our singer is basically butchering the Grade A material into deli meat, but don't fear... the crowd is there for big sandwiches.

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                  • #39
                    I don't need a lot of keys for what we currently do so I made a stand for a 25 key controller. I've had the full key stack with an XS6 and an S90ES and just stood behind the keys to play guitar parts. Now, I have this slightly off to one side, but in front of me so I don't have to mess with the mic placement. Works well. My Motif Rack ES and guitar amp are all rack mounted, so I setup pretty quickly as I just have to drop a rack on stage and plug myself in.



                    Dig the stand and nice job

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                    • #40
                      Dig the stand and nice job


                      Thanks. I converted a music stand by taking off the top and then riveted a smaller plate there instead. A bit of Velcro....and it's all done.

                      You can just about make out a little box under there too. It's a power supply for the keyboard epoxied into a plastic project enclosure. It's all part of the easy set up so I don't have to lug a wall wart around.

                      This whole setup works well. It's gotten a lot of use.
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                      • #41
                        Thanks. I converted a music stand by taking off the top and then riveted a smaller plate there instead. A bit of Velcro....and it's all done.

                        You can just about make out a little box under there too. It's a power supply for the keyboard epoxied into a plastic project enclosure. It's all part of the easy set up so I don't have to lug a wall wart around.

                        This whole setup works well. It's gotten a lot of use.


                        Nicely done!
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                        • #42
                          BTW, how do you like that M-Audio Wireless MIDI?


                          I burned through two of them in less than two years - disposable garbage IMO. With the coin you are making I would definitely recommend the MidiJet system, and its not that much more money really.
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                          • #43
                            I burned through two of them in less than two years - disposable garbage IMO. With the coin you are making I would definitely recommend the MidiJet system, and its not that much more money really.


                            Thanks, I'll check that out.

                            Right now, I'm wondering how much I'll even end up using the thing. As I'm going through my songlist, I'm realizing I play 2 boards much more than I thought I did. And I think it's only visually appropriate for certain songs anyway.

                            I definately want to use it so I can come out from behind the keys and sing "Love Shack" with a girl on either side of me. I think that will be a better visual presentation for the song. But I'll have to either set up a 'split' on the controller or switch programs back-and-forth between organ and brass patches.
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                            • #44
                              Keytar on "Love Shack" could LOOK really cool, for sure, assuming you're singing the male lead ("I got my a car, it's as big as a whale".

                              Hey, do you do "Funky Town"? Check out the official video from when Pseudo Echo covered it in the mid-80s. That was the first time I'd ever seen a Keytar. I thought his presentation was pretty good, even if he's not really playing it.

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                              • #45
                                Keytar on "Love Shack" could LOOK really cool, for sure, assuming you're singing the male lead ("I got my a car, it's as big as a whale".


                                Yeah, I sing the lead on it.

                                Hey, do you do "Funky Town"? Check out the official video from when Pseudo Echo covered it in the mid-80s. That was the first time I'd ever seen a Keytar. I thought his presentation was pretty good, even if he's not really playing it.


                                A few years back when we were still an all-male band, we did this one. I knew that few people would remember the Pseudo Echo version, but I thought people might still dig it because the song is good and whether they knew that version or thought it was our own, that would be fine.

                                It bombed though, and we dropped it after 3 or 4 performances.

                                Of course...I didn't have a keytar then!
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