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  • #61
    No no no no...you don't get it Senior....the audience only taps into showmanship....attention to detail in the music end of it is a waste. It is sad when people get old and don't get this. Says so right here in this thread.

    Read the thread again.


    Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.
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    • #62


      Whadya expect...."gosh G, you're right on again!"
      "Be regular and orderly in your life so that you may be violent and original in your work" - Gustave Flaubert

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      • #63
        Whadya expect...."gosh G, you're right on again!"


        No. no. YOU'RE right Mr. 3. You have all the answers! Who am I to question the grand wisdom or offer an opinion or point-of-view? As you already have told me, I don't possess the musical skill to warrant even HAVING an opinion on things like showmanship, right?

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        • #64
          No no no no...you don't get it Senior....the audience only taps into showmanship....attention to detail in the music end of it is a waste. It is sad when people get old and don't get this. Says so right here in this thread.

          Read the thread again.


          LOL . . . .

          There's lots of thing I don't get by virtue of being old (this week it becomes official - 65!!)

          . . . but I know how I feel. My lousy track record recently for staying in bands is ALL about how well I feel supported musically. I'm sure other guys feel the same way about me . . . and they should.

          Right now, I'm on a musical high. Working with eight guys is a challenge, but I like the feedback loop that I'm a part of, and the response we get to the gigs we've played so far suggests that it's contagious. It doesn't hurt that our front man has serious showman chops, but, I know from listening to tapes of our gigs, that part of his act is feeding off what we're doing.

          And no, Dave, I honestly don't think it works in reverse in the same way. You can sing your heart out, but if the guys behind you don't have the musical understanding - for lack of a better word - it won't magically improve their performance.

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          • #65

            And no, Dave, I honestly don't think it works in reverse in the same way. You can sing your heart out, but if the guys behind you don't have the musical understanding - for lack of a better word - it won't magically improve their performance.


            No, not if you're playing with guys at that level, I suppose not.

            Again, a lot of this stuff seems to revolve around things I've long taken for granted: playing with people who through experience or inately understand how to connect with the other musicians onstage and with the audience and how to play off all that to create a more dynamic performance. If I was playing with people that I couldn't do that with, I'd simply just find other people to play with.

            That there are musicians still struggling with those sorts of basics at 40-50+ years old is something I find a bit mind-boggling, really.
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            • #66
              I can't really disagree with any of this.


              You KNOW you're a failure when you can't even get David to disagree with you. That's the last straw. I'm leaving.
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              • #67
                Hey 3shiftgtr. Twostone is good people. Definitely not a dick. He keeps it short and sweet but that doesn't mean he's rude or fronting.
                Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                • #68
                  No, not if you're playing with guys at that level, I suppose not.

                  Again, a lot of this stuff seems to revolve around things I've long taken for granted: playing with people who through experience or inately understand how to connect with the other musicians onstage and with the audience and how to play off all that to create a more dynamic performance. If I was playing with people that I couldn't do that with, I'd simply just find other people to play with.

                  That there are musicians still struggling with those sorts of basics at 40-50+ years old is something I find a bit mind-boggling, really.


                  I don't think the performance level is relevant. Look at all the name guys that use local talent when they tour. Do you think the local bands pick up their game that much just because they're playing with someone working several rungs higher on the ladder?

                  I'm not buying your hypothesis . . . . at any level.

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                  • #69
                    I don't think the performance level is relevant. Look at all the name guys that use local talent when they tour. Do you think the local bands pick up their game that much just because they're playing with someone working several rungs higher on the ladder?
                    Im not sure what you mean by "performance level". I don't think we're talking about the same thing here.
                    But no, I think they work with local talent that has the experience to know how to play with other musicians in a variety of situations
                    I'm not buying your hypothesis . . . . at any level.

                    What "hypothesis"? I was simply relating my experience.
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                    • #70
                      No. no. YOU'RE right Mr. 3. You have all the answers! Who am I to question the grand wisdom or offer an opinion or point-of-view? As you already have told me, I don't possess the musical skill to warrant even HAVING an opinion on things like showmanship, right?



                      Watch the line G. I've never EVER said or implied a disparaging thing about your musical skills. Ever. I've often proudly mentioned respect in your regards, because you deserve it. So watch the line please.

                      And while your relative ism is showing, you missed a click. There is a difference between having the right to have an opinion on showmanship, which you have, and having the wrong one.

                      Which you have also.
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                      • #71
                        LOL . . . .

                        Right now, I'm on a musical high. Working with eight guys is a challenge, but I like the feedback loop that I'm a part of, and the response we get to the gigs we've played so far suggests that it's contagious. It doesn't hurt that our front man has serious showman chops, but, I know from listening to tapes of our gigs, that part of his act is feeding off what we're doing.


                        Sounds like he is a great showman who also LISTENS and interacts musically with the band. That is AWESOME!!!!
                        "Be regular and orderly in your life so that you may be violent and original in your work" - Gustave Flaubert

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                        • #72
                          I agree with Potts on this. The singing is painfully flat. You need a real singer. I see bands like this every week at the local tavern. I usually leave after the 1st set or before if it's really bad.

                          I'd rather see one guy and an acoustic guitar who can strum 3 basic chords and can sing like a mofo than a whole band with a mediocre singer. That's just me I guess...
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                          You do the math.


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                          • #73
                            Again, a lot of this stuff seems to revolve around things I've long taken for granted: playing with people who through experience or inately understand how to connect with the other musicians onstage and with the audience and how to play off all that to create a more dynamic performance. If I was playing with people that I couldn't do that with, I'd simply just find other people to play with.


                            You've often wondered why I had so many bands. This is what I did. I simply found other people to play with.
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                            • #74
                              Since when is the rule that one can only respond to questions asked of them? If that was the case, you just broke it yourself.

                              My response was polite and not personal. As were my first few responses to Lee even though he jumped in to get personal with me about a post not directed to him either.

                              If there's gonna be such rules, they gotta work both ways, doncha think?


                              It just did. Carry on.

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                              • #75
                                It was a response to somebody else who took the subject there. Maybe you should be LOLing at him? Maybe it's YOUR direction that is misguided here? Oh, wait. It couldn't be THAT! Why, it's Mr. Lee Knight! King of grooves that want to make you ****************, fight or cry and of showmanship on the brink of destruction!

                                But hey, you do what feels best for you. As should everyone.


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