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  • #31
    Lesson learned: When playing a bar, have everything in writing.


    In this case its not certain that would have helped...
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    • #32
      True. There was no specific accounting at the door.
      - ChadEndorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals

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      • #33
        Lesson learned: When playing a bar, have everything in writing.


        Lesson learned, You obviously don't play many bar gigs.

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        • #34
          I am primarily a gospel musician. Except for attending open mic night blues, I have never gotten paid to walk into a bar.
          - ChadEndorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals

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          • #35
            You get paid to attend open mics? ****************! I'm getting ripped off!
            Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?

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            • #36
              It's the hat. And I show up with a case of harmonicas. Plenty of guitarist show up, but never a harp player. And it has been a while since I attended my last one. Getting home at 1am on a work night was killing me.
              - ChadEndorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals

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              • #37
                The worst Ive had was getting double booked, showing up to the other band setting up, but being offered to work in the bar/kitchen all night since half the staff had quit that day.

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                • #38
                  Texting, email and FB just facilitates passive aggressive behavior. When some weasel is screwing you over, we will just try to avoid being called out on it. I am a fossil and still try to do face to face booking and go as far as following up with a driveby sometimes. I try to build a relationship with management. You never know. maybe management is screwing over someone who booked a gig through facebook by having me come in to play since he knows me.
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                  • #39
                    The worst Ive had was getting double booked, showing up to the other band setting up, but being offered to work in the bar/kitchen all night since half the staff had quit that day.


                    That one needs to be reposted . . . . . unreal!

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                    • #40
                      Unless it's your guy working the door... so if you were "paying" the guy working the door how did the money not go directly to you? Did I miss something?


                      Yeah I wish it were that simple- There's some details that even I'm not clear on about this door guy. The person on our side who handled the booking and everything was not entirely clear before the show and wanted nothing more than for us to just "let it go" when the pay issue revealed itself. I would have personally taken that road to the bitter end, but my bandmates preferred to just let it be and agree to not play there again. I think there was some shadyness on both sides, but can't prove it.
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                      • #41
                        Unless it's your guy working the door... so if you were "paying" the guy working the door how did the money not go directly to you? Did I miss something?


                        Yeah I wish it were that simple- There's some details that even I'm not clear on about this door guy. He is a friend of the the person on our side who handled the booking and everything, which was not entirely clear before the show and then he wanted nothing more than for us to just "let it go" when the pay issue revealed itself. I would have personally taken that road to the bitter end, but my bandmates preferred to just let it be and agree to not play there again. I think there was some shadyness on both sides, but can't prove it.
                        Epihpone LP and Dot.
                        Fender American Strat HSS
                        (Loaner) Viking Pillager 60w combo (best amp in the friggin world!)
                        Blackstar Stage-100 Head, 2x12 Blackstar Cab
                        Marshall 4x10 Cab
                        Pedals, pedals, and more pedals. Favs include Strymon Mobius, MXR Super Badass, Digitech Supernatural Reverb, Xotic BB, MXR Carbon Copy.-

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                        • #42
                          The worst Ive had was getting double booked, showing up to the other band setting up, but being offered to work in the bar/kitchen all night since half the staff had quit that day.


                          I know what verbal abuse would have come out of my mouth, but curious what came out of yours after such a fantastic counter-offer !
                          Epihpone LP and Dot.
                          Fender American Strat HSS
                          (Loaner) Viking Pillager 60w combo (best amp in the friggin world!)
                          Blackstar Stage-100 Head, 2x12 Blackstar Cab
                          Marshall 4x10 Cab
                          Pedals, pedals, and more pedals. Favs include Strymon Mobius, MXR Super Badass, Digitech Supernatural Reverb, Xotic BB, MXR Carbon Copy.-

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                          • #43
                            Do you bring a band wife to your gigs? If so, and you are collecting from the door, sit her by the door guy with one of those clicker things. Assuming she has the temperament required for the task!

                            http://www.amazon.com/GOGO-Counter-Handheld-Clicker-Mechanical/dp/B001KX1VW2


                            Good call, this was a RARE gig, as we normally do not work for any portion of the door anymore. In fact, that was the first time in 2012 for us. And the last.
                            Epihpone LP and Dot.
                            Fender American Strat HSS
                            (Loaner) Viking Pillager 60w combo (best amp in the friggin world!)
                            Blackstar Stage-100 Head, 2x12 Blackstar Cab
                            Marshall 4x10 Cab
                            Pedals, pedals, and more pedals. Favs include Strymon Mobius, MXR Super Badass, Digitech Supernatural Reverb, Xotic BB, MXR Carbon Copy.-

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                            • #44
                              very rarely have we NOT been screwed by door money...so we do flat fees in every place we play but one.

                              Once (years ago) we were playing for a smaller flat fee and door money with our bassist's brother working the door. EVEN then a shady bar owner tried to screw us!!!!

                              At the end of the night the owner demanded the money be given to him and HE would pay the band. Bassist's bro said no and then owner refused to give us our flat rate and that we made "enough" at the door.
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                              • #45
                                tl;dr
                                How about a mother****************ing crocodile pit instead of those titty ****************s !


                                Last edited by Jazz Ad on 06-20-2004 at 098 PM

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