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  • #31
    Live entertaiment for sure, and a lot of times better fun than a lot of live bands...good for the venue as well, they can control volume, people drink a lot...I can see a lot f benefits over a live band for the venue, and that is very sad being that I play in a band...

    Rod


    Karaoke is live entertainment. I would rather go to Karaoke, than listen to some

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    • #32
      lol...I have yet to hear a good vocalist at a karoke session...


      There is a bar in Red Bank, NJ that does live band Karaoke every week, the place if full of decent middle aged singers, both men and women. Just people that had bands when they were younger and grew away from it...some real talented people there every week, and they all drop some serious coin at the bar, bring friends and family to see them "perform" and overall just have a great time!

      The band itself has a good time as well since they are always playing varied material, and book a lot of private parties due to this gig. Tips are high as well since everyone is generous when they are having a blast.

      I seldom see a "true band" generate this kind of buzz in the same bar, week in and out, always full, maybe these guys are onto something?

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      • #33
        There is a bar in Red Bank, NJ that does live band Karaoke every week, the place if full of decent middle aged singers, both men and women. Just people that had bands when they were younger and grew away from it...some real talented people there every week, and they all drop some serious coin at the bar, bring friends and family to see them "perform" and overall just have a great time!

        The band itself has a good time as well since they are always playing varied material, and book a lot of private parties due to this gig. Tips are high as well since everyone is generous when they are having a blast.

        I seldom see a "true band" generate this kind of buzz in the same bar, week in and out, always full, maybe these guys are onto something?

        Rod


        If that's true, perhaps the time of the bar band is coming to an end and I am simply in the last days of this phenomenon. Sad to realize this.
        (This is my Non-Signature.)

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        • #34
          I just drove by a local bar with a sign on the sidewalk that said "TONIGHT: LIVE DJ".
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          • #35
            I thought of the "Live Karaoke" idea a few years ago when I was looking to kick my band up a notch and we weren't ready to start looking for a front person/lead singer. I thought it would probably work in the local casinos and might be fun to do. I actually didn't realize it had been done before (although I didn't believe I would have been the FIRST person to think of it) so I searched for some bands like that online I found several. None in our area though.

            We ended up going another route, obviously, but I think that done right it could be pretty fun. If, for no other reason, that you'd end up play a wide variety of songs, some probably just making up on the fly, for the most part, and I like doing stuff like that. The same set list night-after-night stuff gets a bit dull for me. The band would have to be on their toes for sure!

            If nothing else, it might be a great way to find that awesome singer you've been looking for!
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            • #36

              Is that a common sentiment among civilian (non-musican types)?


              I'm going to disagree with what seems to be a number of MUSICIANS in this thread and say yes, I believe it IS the common sentiment among non-musos that karaoke is the same, or at least similar enough, to a live band.

              The don't know any different, and they don't CARE about the difference, either.

              Hell, people don't care to know that it's not pronounced care-ee-oh-key, either.
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              • #37
                lol...I have yet to hear a good vocalist at a karoke session...


                and yet plenty of people attend kareoke sessions, purchase drinks and enjoy themselves... so ... how can it always be 100% about the vocals? How could I post something like that? The statement is absurd on its face.
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                • #38
                  Or perhaps I was just repeating some misinformation I'd heard somehwere else?

                  +10000! I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Nobody is going to sit and watch a band no matter how hard they "groove" if the vox are poor. I've seen it a million times. And to Dave, I get what you were saying even if nobody else did. Time better spent for the O.P would have been on vocals. You weren't advocating ****************ty rhythm playing, just pointing out that they were probably spending their time on something that could have been put on the back burner because their playing is pretty good.
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                  • #39
                    and yet plenty of people attend kareoke sessions, purchase drinks and enjoy themselves... so ... how can it always be 100% about the vocals?


                    Because when it's not about vocals, it's about the visual and the spectacle.
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                    • #40
                      At least Karaoke is a step up from the lip synch fad in the 80s. I can't be the only one that remembers that disturbing trend.


                      Oh God, I remember that well. I remember one of the lippies wanting to sit in with the band, not realizing that he was going to have to actually sing. Funniest train wreck ever. I was in New Orleans at a place called The Cats Paw on Bourbon Street. They had karaoke on a large scale. Flown mains, subs, full monitor and lights on a decent sized stage with a sound tech at a FOH position- there was no hiding behind ****************ty PA and excessive reverb on that stage. I had a blast that night and there was some real talent on that stage. But along with it came tourists with inflatable guitars screeching into the mics. Two words to solve the "Karaoke is live music" misconception:

                      Acapella Karaoke.

                      That'll send 'em running for a real band!
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                      • #41
                        I get where the club owner is coming from; I just happen to disagree with the premise. Karaoke is fun, but it's no more "live" than singing along to the car radio....and I doubt anyone would argue that singing in the car or shower qualifies as "live music".


                        This is somewhat missing the point of this thread, but I would argue that singing in the car or shower is not "live music" because there is no audience. Practicing guitar alone in your living room isn't live music for the same reason.

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                        • #42
                          This is somewhat missing the point of this thread, but I would argue that singing in the car or shower is not "live music" because there is no audience. Practicing guitar alone in your living room isn't live music for the same reason.


                          I disagree. Singing in the shower or practicing an instrument alone at home or in a studio is certainly not playing pre-recorded music. Whether an audience is or is not present does not determine whether the sound produced by the person is (or isn't) music. Whether music constitutes "entertainment" probably does require an audience, but that's not what you said.

                          If the sound being produced is music, then it seems to me that either it is "live" or it is "pre-recorded"; I don't see any other categories as being possible.

                          If you want to engage in a discussion of whether operating a player piano or a hurdy-gurdy is playing live vs. pre-recorded music, I think that we could have a conversation. Mark C.
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                          • #43
                            FAIL.

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                            • #44
                              and yet plenty of people attend kareoke sessions, purchase drinks and enjoy themselves... so ... how can it always be 100% about the vocals? How could I post something like that? The statement is absurd on its face.


                              Hey just because I think karoke is a joke doesn't mean people don't enjoy themselves getting drunk once a week and make fools out of themselves for free at the karoke bar. Sorry but when I perform in public for strangers in a night club or bar I expect to get paid for it. Same reason why I only host open mics ( I get paid for it) and not play at them for free.
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                              • #45
                                One of the main reasons I like shows like "The Voice" and "American Idol" is how good the bands are and I'm in awe of their ability to be so good, so diverse, and crank out so many tunes every week with what can't be more than just a bit of rehearsal on each tune.
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                                That would be my dream gig..
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