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  • #16
    I've resigned that any singer who is truly great at singing and entertaining with the right amount of ego, attitude, and flamboyance is ultimately the same person who is prone to drug/alcohol abuse, band abuse, typically unreliable and irresponsible, unpracticed, unprepared, and a general pain in the ass. And that's the good ones.
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    • #17
      he/she should NOT have Lead Singer Disease. That is number #1. Followed by talent.
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      • #18






        Quote Originally Posted by Kramerguy
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        I've resigned that any singer who is truly great at singing and entertaining with the right amount of ego, attitude, and flamboyance is ultimately the same person who is prone to drug/alcohol abuse, band abuse, typically unreliable and irresponsible, unpracticed, unprepared, and a general pain in the ass. And that's the good ones.




        This. I was in a band with a singer who was very talented, but his home life was a mess. Moved every few months, changed jobs just as often, was into drugs, you never knew if he was going to show up for practice, he didn't own any equipment and never helped with the set up or tear down for shows.



        The singer in the band that I'm in now isn't quite as talented (still a good singer though) has a stable home life and job, doesn't do drugs, is usually the first one to practice, owns his own equipment and is Johnny on the spot to help set up and tear down at shows.



        After dealing with the previous singer I've learned that I'd rather have somebody who isn't quite as talented but is dependable over someone who is extremely talented but is a flake.

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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by stratotastic
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          Agreed. Depending on where you are as a band, you'll probably have to make some compromises. The OP's wish list is nice, but if you do get lucky and get your fantasy singer, unless you're gigging heavily and making lots of money, they'll want to trade up sooner than later and you're back where you started.




          I agree. A band is kinda like marriage. The rich guy has the hot wife, usually, and the poor guy has the not so hot wife. If the rich guy loses his riches, the hot wife is usually gone, and if the poor guy gains them, he usually trades up. We tend to end up with what we are comfortable with and what is, generally speaking, a "peer".



          Bands are similar. If a mediocre band somehow lands a fabulous member, be it singer or whatever, they had better improve or they will lose that person pretty fast. When I joined my main band they were also planning on getting a lead vocalist. I joined as a bass player with the ability to sing some lead as well. But as the band (and I) figured out what I could do vocally, they kept assigning more and more songs to me as lead vocalist. Frankly, I surprised myself.



          We are no longer even looking for a lead singer. Between us we have all the vocalists we need for the various styles. And I've got the "front man" personality so we don't need that either. Here is the kicker, though: The whole band got better because we got a glimpse of what we can actually do. Everyone is practicing more and we are all surprising ourselves. But all that being said, as with the marriage example, this is possible because we are a cover band with day jobs and musical peers. If we were doing the casino thing and making our living from this, I would not be good enough for lead vocals, nor would any of the other members.



          One other thing: I've heard better singers in karaoke bars than a lot of the lead singers for bands. In fact, one of the things that caused me to entertain singing in a band was hearing a lead singer trash "born to be wild", which I can ace pretty easily. At the time I didn't even play bass. Then there is the playing bass while singing lead thing. That's a subject for another thread, however, but it brings up the versatility of a "dedicated lead singer", assuming you can find one without band destroying ego (which is the gorilla in the room).

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          • #20
            They should have some gear, know how to set up & use it, & transportation sufficient to move their gear. Somebody who doesn't own so much as a microphone, ain't no singer!

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              • #22






                Quote Originally Posted by Kramerguy
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                I've resigned that any singer who is truly great at singing and entertaining with the right amount of ego, attitude, and flamboyance is ultimately the same person who is prone to drug/alcohol abuse, band abuse, typically unreliable and irresponsible, unpracticed, unprepared, and a general pain in the ass. And that's the good ones.




                I'd have to agree. It tends to be the wild, somewhat crazy guys who turn out to be the best frontmen, at least in the original band world.
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                • #23
                  "After dealing with the previous singer I've learned that I'd rather have somebody who isn't quite as talented but is dependable over someone who is extremely talented but is a flake. "

                  Sooooo True!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Go for what you can count on. Dont assume what you offer is pure Gold....he/she may really think you need to improve. Its always true on both sides. Be cool about it, let people be people..find someone who "belongs in the band"..givem em some time to develop as your singer. A great front person is not someone who has a 6 octave range, or never forgets a line...Bille Holiday had about 5 good notes,,,and Sinatra forgot words in "Strangers in the Night". Dont be a weiner, meet alot of people, take in the one that belongs and get on with it. GtrGeorge

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                  • #24






                    Quote Originally Posted by mumpfic1
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                    So I

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                    • #25






                      Quote Originally Posted by jimiv
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                      For me, it depends on what kind of band you are trying to be. If its a kumbayah buddy band, then vocal quality is not as important as getting along with each other and minimizing drama and playing solely to have a good time with each other. If you're trying to make a splash and compete with A-listers and private event types for bigger money, vocal quality is primary and you cannot attract a top drawer singer without top drawer players. For original bands, I also think top vocals is a must but with the twist that the vocalist needs to have a unique sound/tone to his/her voice. Like when you hear him/her you immediately say, "oh yeah, that's so and so."



                      Anyway, for me, I will put up with a lot of **************** to play with a top vocalist, but you have to have excellent players with gigs to even get someone of that caliber interested. Do they come with issues? Sometimes, but are those issues overbearing and so insufferable as to completely derail your project? Maybe, but it is a case by case situation and I, for one, am always willing to go down the road with the talent and see where it leads. So what if they are chipping a little at something. Aren't we all to some extent? If it becomes unbearable, then you make a switch. By then, assuming you have the topdrawer backing band, there is always someone in the wings ready to step in and it is usually the sub you have been using.




                      And top guys tend to get protocol as well. Not all lead vocalists are clueless. There are guys that get the biz of the bar. If a guy has been around a bit, he may be a flake in lots of ways, but... my experience is that they have also taken to their role of shmoozer off stage as well. Not a bad guy to have in your camp if you're like most musicians I know. And that includes me.
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                      • #26
                        Honestly, memorizing lyrics and performing is much more challenging than learning most musical parts. Therefore, try and find a singer who is passionate about performing songs in the style of songs that you would like to learn. It helps tremendously if you are the source of good steady high paying work. That's where the good singers drift.
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                        • #27
                          - Someone who craves the spotlight and whom the spotlight loves

                          - Someone who can command a crowd...take them on a ride

                          - A person who can put on a real show no matter how large or small the crowd

                          - Someone not in the grasp of drugs, alcohol or habitually abusive relationships

                          - A decent to good singing voice with the confidence and training (formal or hard knocks) to make it shine

                          - A team player who does what's expected of them: learn parts ahead of practice, is punctual, easy to get along with



                          Not too much to ask...huh?
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                          • #28
                            Has to be a chick, has to have tattoos, and has to be cute but not too cute that everyone wants to be with her. Most like average to slightly cute.
                            'Cause I'd rather stay here, with all the madmen, than perish with the sadmen roaming free.







                            Originally Posted by claytonjohn18


                            I'M ****************ING SORRY OKAY? YOU CAN HAVE THE FIRST BLOOD OF MY FIRST BORN SON IN A GOBLET LABELED I'M ****************ING SORRY.









                            Originally Posted by Agreed


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                            Originally Posted by TomVanDeven


                            Those are the tone fairies awakening inside, getting ready to shovel tone coal in to the tone boilers.




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                            • #29
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                              • #30
                                Back when I was gigging and playing out in bands singers were always the hardest to find (well, GOOD singers anyways LOL)



                                For me I think it's really important that they can sing well and have a decent range of styles they can cover, actually have a sense of pitch and dynamics, and as others have suggested actually have their **************** together....Unfortunately these people are few and far between, and the good ones are almost always already in bands...
                                Originally Posted by co&cafan808


                                chevybusa ****************in delivers the lulz!!!



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                                Originally Posted by OldGuitarPlayer


                                Ahhh...John Cage. The ultimate troll.









                                Originally Posted by Anderton


                                Just remember...machines don't kill music, people do.

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