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  • #46






    Quote Originally Posted by Piano Whore
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    To increase the commercial appeal of progressive rock it needs to be combined with hi-tech synth-based dance music. Prog-step!








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    • #47
      I'm sure that someone is ready to chime in to say that "Owner of a Lonely Heart" was hi-tech for it's time (AFAIK was one of the first hit songs to make use of sampling) and a big dance floor hit- 30 or so years ago. Prog rock, what have you done for the dance floor LATELY?
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      • #48






        Quote Originally Posted by Piano Whore
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        I'm sure that someone is ready to chime in to say that "Owner of a Lonely Heart" was hi-tech for it's time (AFAIK was one of the first hit songs to make use of sampling) and a big dance floor hit- 30 or so years ago. Prog rock, what have you done for the dance floor LATELY?




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        • #49






          Quote Originally Posted by jimiv
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          One of my favorite albums that I never tire of listening to.







          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3VLRfNiAY








          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUBfiWcj_HA
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          • #50






            Quote Originally Posted by ForgetMeNacht
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            This seems to be a too common scenario when it comes to getting band members. I meet a musician either through ads/networking/chance meeting. We hit it off and keep regular contact leading up to the practice. I tell the person up front that if anything should come up and that if he's not interested, just let me know.



            Two scenes happen. The guy shows up for one practice or doesn't show up at all. I call up and I go either straight to voice mail or the # is disconnected. I email and message the guy and no response, ever.



            I never hear a single word from the person, ever since.



            What is the big deal? If you can't be in the band for a sudden reason, that's fine. I just wish for some form of communication. You don't even have to give a reason, just don't leave me hanging.



            Am I the only person who goes through this BS? Is there some kind of "cold shoulder" virus that spreads among musicians?




            Maybe they don't like your vision, personality, etc. maybe they don't see it as a viable project, or just not a good fit for them...





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            • #51
              Different rules apply to metal methinks. Not saying this as a slam on metal. But I think I understand that scene pretty well, based on past experience.



              Think about it: it's not a popular form of music. Gigs barely pay if at all. Even the popular bands probably don't do as well financially as some cover bands. Different rules apply. And: how do you judge "good" metal? Even the metal heads are constantly b***g about what "sucks" and what doesn't. A very fractured scene full of angry young men.
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              • #52






                Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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                Different rules apply to metal methinks. Not saying this as a slam on metal. But I think I understand that scene pretty well, based on past experience.



                Think about it: it's not a popular form of music. Gigs barely pay if at all. Even the popular bands probably don't do as well financially as some cover bands. Different rules apply. And: how do you judge "good" metal? Even the metal heads are constantly b***g about what "sucks" and what doesn't. A very fractured scene full of angry young men.




                It's actually a really inclusive community with a few snobs scattered around. Like any music scene really. The metal crowd ihas been incredibly receptive to us. The prog crowd is a lot worse in that regard.
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                • #53






                  Quote Originally Posted by SLScott86
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                  The prog crowd is a lot worse in that regard.




                  Possibly. Always a vocal minority somewhere.
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                  • #54
                    I loved old "Yes" but the Trevor Rabin years were awesome.

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                    • #55






                      Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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                      I loved old "Yes" but the Trevor Rabin years were awesome.




                      Great example of a band able to re-invent itself and be artistically relevant in a new era. Not too bands have been able to pull that off successfully.
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                      • #56






                        Quote Originally Posted by guido61
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                        Great example of a band able to re-invent itself and be artistically relevant in a new era. Not too bands have been able to pull that off successfully.




                        For epic failure see: Billy Squire
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                        • #57






                          Quote Originally Posted by vanlatte
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                          For epic failure see: Billy Squire




                          When and how did he try to reinvent himself? Hell he was old when he broke big in early 80's.
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                          • #58






                            Quote Originally Posted by SeniorBlues
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                            A good description.



                            Sometimes the "bait and switch" is intentional deception; other times, it's their idea of what "normal" is.



                            I have had long post-first-rehearsal discussions and even sent a long email once. I look back on each of these attempts to clarify my reasons for not continuing and I wonder . . . . what was the point? One guy did respond by thanking me for my candor.




                            You have manners, but not everyone takes 'I am dissolving our relationship for the following reasons....1, 2, 3, 3a ' very well.



                            I do it too...probably because my personality profile needs closure. I've written my share to family, friends, band members, etc.



                            Some would say it's best not to say anything....let it fizzle....but I prefer finality.
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                            • #59






                              Quote Originally Posted by Sillypeoples
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                              You have manners, but not everyone takes 'I am dissolving our relationship for the following reasons....1, 2, 3, 3a ' very well.



                              I do it too...probably because my personality profile needs closure. I've written my share to family, friends, band members, etc.



                              Some would say it's best not to say anything....let it fizzle....but I prefer finality.




                              Relationship? Does participation in a single audition/rehearsal/jam constitute a "relationship"? Not in my book - no more than a "first date and no more" would. An "I am dissolving our relationsip for reasons 1, 2, 3, 3a..." explanation in the wake of a "flat" first date is NOT good manners my friend - it borders on stalker/psycho ****************.



                              Just because my path has crossed that of a "first date", a car salesman, a telemarketeer, a band leader that clearly misrepresented the band in question - I am under NO obligation whatsoever to explain the reasons I do not care to become involved with them. A polite "I'll think about it ..." is enough to disengage, maybe a succinct "no thanks" under the right circumstances - is more than enough.



                              If you get an "I'll think about it ...." response from somebody who then makes no effort to contact you within a reasonable time frame - you've received the finality you prefer. The question at that point is whether you're astute enough to realize it. If you don't - that's your issue - not the issue of whoever sent you the message.
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                              • #60
                                I tell potential members that if they don't like it for any reason, just let me know they are no longer in the band. Still they just give the silent treatment even after telling it to them straight.
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