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    • Quote Originally Posted by roamingbard13
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      What are the most "value-added" things we can do? Adding subs? Lights? A banner? OR -- do we raise our asking price and hire out sound and lights?




      1.) Get a banner: People need to know the name of your band so they can follow you. Go to www.eSigns.com and drop $50-100 on their big vinyl banners! I used one for years and they're great.



      2.) Get some semblance of lights: You don't NEED a light guy (sure it helps), but even a few well placed cans and LED side fills will separate you from the chump bands in the area. Just don't leave them set on "seizure" all night.



      3.) Have a quality PA: Sure, having subs is nice, but those seeing you need it... well, I challenge you with my $600-800 guarantee 4 piece bar hard rock band that booked any venue any time we wanted. Without subs. Well-tuned gear, well-tuned PA. It worked very well. But yes, having subs DOES fill your sound nicer.

      SIDE NOTE: As you up your PA, you up your own sound requirements. Once your drummer has to start micing up all his drums at each gig to still be heard, you'll see your cost/profit ration start to dip. Watch this cost/profit ratio like a hawk and know what YOUR GOAL is for the band, not what Harmony-Central forums tells you.



      4.) Have everyone lose 10 pounds: Okay, sort of a joke, as I haven't watched your videos, but it's a rule of thumb, especially in rock music. Want a succesful 90s-today rock cover band? Look and be the part. Which means being in shape. And preferably not "keg" as that shape.



      5.) Make a fan base of hot girls: Bars appreciate it, guys buy more drinks when hot girls are there, etc. If you're in a bar band, the best thing you can do is focus your attention (friendly, not banging) (well, bang if you can) on the girls so they keep coming back. The guys will then stay.
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      • Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS
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        Thanks for putting up the vids. I think you guys sound best with the girl in the band.




        I wholeheartedly disagree. She's noticeably weaker than the dude in the red shirt. She can probably impress people who think that throaty=good, but to anyone who knows what a singer is supposed to sound like, she sounds like any other chick singing karaoke with lousy pitch and too much vibrato.



        The dude OTOH, while not an amazing powerhouse of a singer, has good pitch, confidence, and a pleasant voice.



        Also, the audio on those videos is atrocious. Don't use them for promo purposes. I'm listening on $400 headphones and literally can't understand anything I'm listening to. I had to hunt for a spot where I could even make out the vocals. I know you had some issues, and that's fine, but get that corrected ASAP. This isn't making your band look good.



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        Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones.

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        • Quote Originally Posted by Lee Knight
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          But ask that guy to lose the headband. Nothing says "bar" more that a headband. Or is it just me?




          No it's not just you. It looks like the bottom of a t-shirt

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          • Quote Originally Posted by IsildursBane
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            I wholeheartedly disagree. She's noticeably weaker than the dude in the red shirt. She can probably impress people who think that throaty=good, but to anyone who knows what a singer is supposed to sound like, she sounds like any other chick singing karaoke with lousy pitch and too much vibrato.



            The dude OTOH, while not an amazing powerhouse of a singer, has good pitch, confidence, and a pleasant voice.



            Also, the audio on those videos is atrocious. Don't use them for promo purposes. I'm listening on $400 headphones and literally can't understand anything I'm listening to. I had to hunt for a spot where I could even make out the vocals. I know you had some issues, and that's fine, but get that corrected ASAP. This isn't making your band look good.



            -Dan.






            Interesting ,, I felt the guy in the red shirt had some pitch issues and the voice seemed a tad dull like he was singing mostly out his mouth and not from his diaphram. She just seemed like the needed more experience but had more timbre and sang from the diaphram and had more potential to put passion in her vocals.
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              Quote Originally Posted by FitchFY
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              1.) Get a banner: People need to know the name of your band so they can follow you. Go to www.eSigns.com and drop $50-100 on their big vinyl banners! I used one for years and they're great.



              2.) Get some semblance of lights: You don't NEED a light guy (sure it helps), but even a few well placed cans and LED side fills will separate you from the chump bands in the area. Just don't leave them set on "seizure" all night.



              3.) Have a quality PA: Sure, having subs is nice, but those seeing you need it... well, I challenge you with my $600-800 guarantee 4 piece bar hard rock band that booked any venue any time we wanted. Without subs. Well-tuned gear, well-tuned PA. It worked very well. But yes, having subs DOES fill your sound nicer.

              SIDE NOTE: As you up your PA, you up your own sound requirements. Once your drummer has to start micing up all his drums at each gig to still be heard, you'll see your cost/profit ration start to dip. Watch this cost/profit ratio like a hawk and know what YOUR GOAL is for the band, not what Harmony-Central forums tells you.



              4.) Have everyone lose 10 pounds: Okay, sort of a joke, as I haven't watched your videos, but it's a rule of thumb, especially in rock music. Want a succesful 90s-today rock cover band? Look and be the part. Which means being in shape. And preferably not "keg" as that shape.



              5.) Make a fan base of hot girls: Bars appreciate it, guys buy more drinks when hot girls are there, etc. If you're in a bar band, the best thing you can do is focus your attention (friendly, not banging) (well, bang if you can) on the girls so they keep coming back. The guys will then stay.




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              • Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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                Nominate for one of the most thought out posts in this thread!




                Agreed!

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                • Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS
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                  Interesting ,, I felt the guy in the red shirt had some pitch issues and the voice seemed a tad dull like he was singing mostly out his mouth and not from his diaphram. She just seemed like the needed more experience but had more timbre and sang from the diaphram and had more potential to put passion in her vocals.




                  She's not singing from her diaphragm. She's singing like someone trying to sound like they're singing from their diaphragm w/o actually doing it properly.



                  IMO, that sounds worse than just not trying to fake it.



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                  Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones.

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                  • Quote Originally Posted by IsildursBane
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                    She's not singing from her diaphragm.




                    Do women even use those things anymore?
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                      • Quote Originally Posted by guido61
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                        I knew a girl who sang using her diaphragm once. Strangest damn thing you ever saw....




                        was it this girl?






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                        • Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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                          Nominate for one of the most thought out posts in this thread!




                          Ha! Well, thanks, but this is just off the top of my head answering the dude's question. Whoever got into arguments about harmonies and how to best power a PA was way, way, way, way answering their own questions.
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                          • Quote Originally Posted by FitchFY
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                            Ha! Well, thanks, but this is just off the top of my head answering the dude's question. Whoever got into arguments about harmonies and how to best power a PA was way, way, way, way answering their own questions.




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                              • Quote Originally Posted by jimiv
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