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  • Here we go again with all the gear talk. Wake me up when you all wanna talk about how to be an effective music director, how to help band mates find the harmony note consistently and with confidence, how to encourage band mates and yourself to have situational awareness and a forward facing, inviting stage presence: which includes not looking or acting scared or timid up there.



    My whole point in posting our video is that we don't reall have vocal talent. Hell the lead in the OP probebly is a better singer than what we got. But: this is a band with no gigs and a handful of focused rehearsals as opposed to 2 years of gigs and obviously unfocused rehearsals.



    :yawn:
    Kickin' it in the sticks...

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    • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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      Here we go again with all the gear talk. Wake me up when you all wanna talk about how to be an effective music director, how to help band mates find the harmony note consistently and with confidence, how to encourage band mates and yourself to have situational awareness and a forward facing, inviting stage presence: which includes not looking or acting scared or timid up there.



      My whole point in posting our video is that we don't reall have vocal talent. Hell the lead in the OP probebly is a better singer than what we got. But: this is a band with no gigs and a handful of focused rehearsals as opposed to 2 years of gigs and obviously unfocused rehearsals.



      :yawn:




      Rehearsal is over-rated. The classic rock band I play with has never had a band practice yet I play 45 nights with them last year. My main bands last practice was in Sept. IIRC. Unless we are working in a new drummer we will only have a rehearsal if we are learning a new song. I know one band locally who were rehearsing once a week for about 18 months before there first gig. That would drive me nuts.

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      • Quote Originally Posted by modulusman
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        Rehearsal is over-rated. The classic rock band I play with has never had a band practice yet I play 45 nights with them last year. My main bands last practice was in Sept. IIRC. Unless we are working in a new drummer we will only have a rehearsal if we are learning a new song. I know one band locally who were rehearsing once a week for about 18 months before there first gig. That would drive me nuts.




        yep. If you are gigging you really shouldn't need weekly practices.
        tlbonehead@yahoo.com
        www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
        -For Sale:
        -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
        -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
        - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
        - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
        - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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        • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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          That's a great point.



          Mistakes happen.



          But bad habits: making the same mistakes....that should be recognized and dealt with by either getting it locked down tight in rehearsal or dropping the tune.




          Agreed. Personally, I prefer the former to the latter.
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          HARD WORK BEATS TALENT WHEN TALENT DOESN'T WORK HARD

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          • Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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            yep. If you are gigging you really shouldn't need weekly practices.




            No disrespect but: no ****************.



            But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



            There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



            Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.
            Kickin' it in the sticks...

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            • Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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              yep. If you are gigging you really shouldn't need weekly practices.




              No disrespect but: no ****************.



              But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



              There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



              Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.
              Kickin' it in the sticks...

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              • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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                No disrespect but: no ****************.



                But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



                There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



                Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.




                ok, dad.
                tlbonehead@yahoo.com
                www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
                -For Sale:
                -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
                -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
                - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
                - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
                - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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                • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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                  No disrespect but: no ****************.



                  But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



                  There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



                  Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.




                  ok, dad.
                  tlbonehead@yahoo.com
                  www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
                  -For Sale:
                  -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
                  -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
                  - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
                  - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
                  - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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                  • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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                    No disrespect but: no ****************.



                    But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



                    There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



                    Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.




                    And yet the average idiot will think the band with 20K in PA and lights is a better band.

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                    • Quote Originally Posted by wades_keys
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                      No disrespect but: no ****************.



                      But here's the thing. If the band doesn't work up stage presence, moves, a coherent look and develop the ability to set the bar high and work together to keep it that way, the result is rarely better than mediocre, musically.



                      There are established, stagnant bands here that we already smoke musically: better energy, passion, execution. That doesn't happen by just showing up and playing the parts. Someone has to be the critic. And someone should also play the role of saying: "good enough, let's not burn this out"



                      Yall are steadily proving my belief by refusing to share details of how to really run an effective rehearsal. And for that: I thank you. I know I'm on the right path now.




                      And yet the average idiot will think the band with 20K in PA and lights is a better band.

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by modulusman
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                        Rehearsal is over-rated.







                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPoBXemFmg





                        It's all about balance as far as I'm concerned. Although I've done my share of gigs with virtually no rehearsals - it's not my preferred method, if for any reason - simply because I know an unrehearsed show rarely make the list of my better performances.



                        Neither am I interested in endless rehearsing without gigs.



                        Rehearsals that focus on new material

                        Rehearsals that blow thru "starts and stops" before a "first gig in awhile" situation

                        Rehearsals that address obvious disconnects



                        Rehearsals to "get tight", "capture the feeling", "recreate a performance" feel

                        Rehearsals where individual players are learning their parts

                        Rehearsals to review whole songs that have been on the playlist forever

                        Rehearsals when gigs were available because "we're not ready"



                        It's all about balance!
                        The SpaceNorman

                        www.facebook.com/SuperstarsOfRock
                        www.souldoutrocks.com

                        Keyboards and Tone Generators: Yamaha CP300, Kronos 88, Roland AX Synth, Motif ES Rack
                        Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
                        Stage Amplification: Stereo via 2 Yamaha DSR112s

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                        • Quote Originally Posted by modulusman
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                          Rehearsal is over-rated.













                          It's all about balance as far as I'm concerned. Although I've done my share of gigs with virtually no rehearsals - it's not my preferred method, if for any reason - simply because I know an unrehearsed show rarely make the list of my better performances.



                          Neither am I interested in endless rehearsing without gigs.



                          Rehearsals that focus on new material

                          Rehearsals that blow thru "starts and stops" before a "first gig in awhile" situation

                          Rehearsals that address obvious disconnects



                          Rehearsals to "get tight", "capture the feeling", "recreate a performance" feel

                          Rehearsals where individual players are learning their parts

                          Rehearsals to review whole songs that have been on the playlist forever

                          Rehearsals when gigs were available because "we're not ready"



                          It's all about balance!
                          The SpaceNorman

                          www.facebook.com/SuperstarsOfRock
                          www.souldoutrocks.com

                          Keyboards and Tone Generators: Yamaha CP300, Kronos 88, Roland AX Synth, Motif ES Rack
                          Keyboard Rack: Samson SM10 Line Mixer, Motu MIDIExpressXT MIDI Interface, Shure PSM200 IEM system, M-Audio Wireless MIDI, Live Wires IEM ear buds, iPad wOnSong.
                          Stage Amplification: Stereo via 2 Yamaha DSR112s

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                          • Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                            ok, dad.




                            Damn tommy: it ain't about all that but whatever.



                            I can see you ain't into taking direction and working steady in the band room to get it right.



                            It ain't for everyone. But good teams have good coaches and good team players believe in the system and buy into it.



                            You band could improve too but I ain't here to call nobody out. Would rather chat with like minded, pro minded cats that get what I'm saying. My guy didn't get his Nashville gig by being tough to work with, and he's all the time telling me stories about razzy and how he'd keep the band on track.



                            But like I said: go on and get butt hurt if that makes ya feel better.
                            Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                            • Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                              ok, dad.




                              Damn tommy: it ain't about all that but whatever.



                              I can see you ain't into taking direction and working steady in the band room to get it right.



                              It ain't for everyone. But good teams have good coaches and good team players believe in the system and buy into it.



                              You band could improve too but I ain't here to call nobody out. Would rather chat with like minded, pro minded cats that get what I'm saying. My guy didn't get his Nashville gig by being tough to work with, and he's all the time telling me stories about razzy and how he'd keep the band on track.



                              But like I said: go on and get butt hurt if that makes ya feel better.
                              Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                              • Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                                ok, dad.




                                Damn tommy: it ain't about all that but whatever.



                                I can see you ain't into taking direction and working steady in the band room to get it right.



                                It ain't for everyone. But good teams have good coaches and good team players believe in the system and buy into it.



                                You band could improve too but I ain't here to call nobody out. Would rather chat with like minded, pro minded cats that get what I'm saying. My guy didn't get his Nashville gig by being tough to work with, and he's all the time telling me stories about razzy and how he'd keep the band on track.



                                But like I said: go on and get butt hurt if that makes ya feel better.
                                Kickin' it in the sticks...

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