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took me a while to figure out where the song was. In the title I guess?
The song is bad...really bad. I don't need a lecture about pleasing an audience either please.
I got this feeling on the summer day when you were gone. I crashed my car into the bridge. I watched, I let it burn. I threw your **** into a bag and pushed it down the stairs. I crashed my car into the bridge.
SLScott86 wrote: I am not opposed to pop music. But, yes, I hate this song. It's a smart add, but man... Every now and then there well be a song I just don't get. This song is one, pumped up kicks was another.
Every once in a while there's those songs whose strength lies in their simplicity. I think this is one of those. As such, it seems more like a punk song to me than pure pop. Like something the Ramones might have done.
Every now and then there well be a song I just don't get. This song is one, pumped up kicks was another.
I agree that both tunes are pretty vapid ... and both get worse if you actually listen to the lyrics.
I will admit that "Pumped Up Kicks" has actually turned into somewhat of a guilty pleasure for me ... I've got a single almost atonal chord to play during the long intro ... and some airy color chords to play in the chorus. One night, back when we first started playing the song - I stepped on my sustain pedal, backed the volume pedal off completely and struck the atonal chord - and started goofing around with our female vocalist (who, except for during the chorus is idle for most of the song (our bass player sings it). I bring the atonal chord in and out as necessary with the expression pedal - while goofing around with our female vocalist with a "look ma - no hands!" parody. It's one of the few tunes we do in which I'm not busy as hell ... so it's actually sorta fun!
I'm fortunate in that I can't think of anything in our playlist (including some of the most overplayed, beaten to death tunes) in which I can't find something that I actually enjoy when playing them. It might be a certain sound, the "ying and yang" interplay in a rhythmic passage, the challenge of a difficult keyboard part of vocal harmony, a goofy lyric that makes me chuckle (the "boom boom shacka lacka lacka boom" phrase in "Walk the Dinosaur" jumps to mind " id="smiley" src="https://guitarcenter.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-.png" alt=":smiley:" title="Smiley Very Happy" /> ) or as in this case - just goofing with a band mate. However, there's always something in every tune that I enjoy! I consider myself lucky in this regard ... I can't imagine how the guys that hate something about so many tunes manage to get thru the night!
Simplicity is great, I just find this particular song to have the obnoxious knob turned to 11. But so do most dancing drunk chicks. So this is a slam dunk I'm sure. It's the exact same trait that makes both "infectious." I didn't realize that pun untilI reread that sentence.
SLScott86 wrote: Simplicity is great, I just find this particular song to have the obnoxious knob turned to 11. But so do most dancing drunk chicks. So this is a slam dunk I'm sure. It's the exact same trait that makes both "infectious." I didn't realize that pun untilI reread that sentence.
Such simple songs are as easily hateable as they are likable. Kind of goes with the territory I imagine. And they certainly aren't written for musicians to enjoy for their musical attributes. Probably a good one to play right after "Red Solo Cup" or some such other silliness.
SLScott86 wrote: Not really. Different strokes. IF there's a melody that I like and can sing convincingly. So... not this one. I'll do Katy Perry, T. Swift, and Carly Rae Jepsen though. I'll do their songs, that is.
Isn't any song worth doing that you can't do convincely. Way too many song choices out there to being doing stuff that doesn't fit your wheelhouse.
Continuing to insert myself into the music-related topic of other people's disagreements.
I am at both extremes. I am in an original band and we only will do a cover if it is both an artist who influences us AND a song that fits the atmosphere of the show, and one that we'll knock out of the park. It isn't a call that I get to make... well... ever. Learning a cover only requires me to listen to it and sing along a couple times. Other guys who have the hard part of learning riffs and fills and getting the music tight tend to be the ones who control whether a song is learned or not. So no AIC covers for us. We did do a beautifully arranged cover of Teenage Dream once, that went over well, but some guy said he lost respect for us and we haven't played it again. I think we're too picky if anything, though covers aren't really the point. The only time I've seen a local band booed was a metal band doing a pop cover.
On the other hand, when I play solo, I will play anything that I find to be catchy. I know what my "style" is, and there aren't many melodies that I can't do in it. I'm gonna bang out some chords and I'm gonna sing it with passion. If I had more integrity I would be staying home and leaving the solo gigs to better musicians.
I'm not really saying anything of much relevance here it turns out. Lots of people seem to love the song, so I don't think it's any stretch to believe that most of the people playing it enjoy it.
"No friggin way. I have no desire to play that tune- it's dreadful.""
Actually, my bassist said that about "I Love It." But...it's a big song right now, people love it, people dance to it, people sing to it, and it makes the party keep partying. So he plays it and even though he hates the song, he enjoys the reaction the band gets when we play it. As long as it works, we'll keep playing it. As soon as it doesn't, he'll be the first to say ok let's cut it.
Any debate in which a cover musician attempts to establish some sort of moral high ground by asserting that these songs somehow have "integrity" while those songs don't - is so misguided it's laughable. In addition to being laughable - I find the arrogance that underlies such claims (which is that the musician making the claim somehow has some sort of special powers that enables them to divine which tunes have "integrity" and which tunes don't) - to be mildly offensive.
Debate objective attributes of a song if you feel the need. Things like a song's degree of complexity, amount of critical acclaim it has received, commerical success it has attained, etc. - are all objective attributes that can argued. Lay claim to having "integrity" because you only perform originals. But, puhlease! - don't embarass yourself and insult the rest of us by trying to tell us that your taste in cover tunes is somehow better than ours simply because the tunes you like intrinsically have more "integrity" than what others may like.
SLScott86 wrote: I regards to Spacenorman, I think Potts was referring to integrity of not playing music you don't like, not so much playing "songs with integrity."
Scott - I think that's stretch. Potts comments (shown below) clearly make a subjective judgment about a song's "quality" - and questions the "musical integrity" of those who might happen to cover it. That's goes well beyond a simple claim of "I only play material that Ilike!" (and the personal integrity that comes with a position like that).
Potts wrote: Seriously though... Doesn't anyone have an ouce of musical integrity anymore? So what if the song will go over. Red Solo Cup for instance...that would be a perfect song for me to do solo with or without a track. I played it once live and realized I was a complete ho for doing it and dropped it.
I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else or have more integrity, but don't you guys ever draw a line with some of this crap that's huge on the radio for a minute and then disappears?."
With all due respect to Potts - I wasn't trying to call him out personally. I've had this identical debate countless times with various bandmates over the years. While I may have used his comments as an example - I was really trying to make a point regarding the underlying premises of this argument in general.
Put simply - there is no universally recognized threshold for what is "crap" tune and what isn't. Each of us makes that call for ourselves. I'm also commenting that I find it mildly offensive when in the course of talking about tunes for a playlist - somebody tries to trump the discussion with their unilateral judgment about what is "crap" as though it's a statement of fact.
Play whatever tunes you want and play 'em for whatever reason(s) float your boat - just don't try to tell us that it's because of your musical integrity that you're playing these cover tunes and not those cover tunes.