Members Vito Corleone Posted August 11, 2013 Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 Normally I find Simmons to be a pretentious douch-bag that I rarely agree with.He's still a pretentious douch-bag here, but he hits the nail on the head for the most part in his assessment of things: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tacdryver Posted August 11, 2013 Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 Excellent vid, thanks. Still digesting what I think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mstreck Posted August 11, 2013 Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 Gene Simmons has always been a businessman. Not everyone likes him, but he is one sharp cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted August 11, 2013 Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 People like money. Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted August 11, 2013 Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 He needs a better wig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2013 StratGuy22 wrote: He needs a better wig. That IS some sad-ass hair, for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SLScott86 Posted August 12, 2013 Members Share Posted August 12, 2013 Interesting timing for him to say anything you give away will ( salty) you, and then follow that up immediately by saying rappers were the ones making money, when they've been giving away mixtapes for years and years. Certainly speaks no small degree of truth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sventvkg Posted August 14, 2013 Members Share Posted August 14, 2013 He's right. He's always Sucked a$$ as a musician but he's a Marketing genius:) It's just that nobody wants to hear the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kramerguy Posted August 14, 2013 Members Share Posted August 14, 2013 Kiss wrote great songs in their early career. He's a decent singer and can play bass pretty damn well. I'm not in the Kiss Army, and I'm certainly no fanboy of theirs, but I always respected their success, and early on, it relied on good music as much as a good show. Regarding the video- I pretty much second everything guido said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SLScott86 Posted August 14, 2013 Members Share Posted August 14, 2013 Rock has no singular thing to rebel against, especially as it pertains to itself. That's definitely a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted August 14, 2013 SLScott86 wrote: Rock has no singular thing to rebel against, especially as it pertains to itself. That's definitely a problem. Good point. Rock began largely as a rebellion against the older generation. Hard to do that now that so many rockers are now reaching their 70s..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3shiftgtr Posted August 15, 2013 Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 Of course he hates anything that is not commercial. He has set his life up to be who he is/ He just can't relate to any other aesthetic as it makes no sense to him. If you don't agree with him, you're a liar. Typical. Why would anyone want to chase the artistic aesthetic Allan Holdsworth does? In Gene's mind, he rationalizes any decision that relates to art as an opportunity to make money. And anyone who doesn't do that same thing is either fooling themselves or doing it wrong. Fook that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 3shiftgtr wrote: Why would anyone want to chase the artistic aesthetic Allan Holdsworth does? In Gene's mind, he rationalizes any decision that relates to art as an opportunity to make money. And anyone who doesn't do that same thing is either fooling themselves or doing it wrong. I don't know that I quite got a that from his comments. He mostly seemed to be saying that if you're selling merchandise, then you're doing the same thing KISS is doing, albeit to a lesser degree, so pretending it's all just about the art is hypocritical.Then again, I really don't want to spend much time defending Simmons, because the guy IS a certifiable douchbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SLScott86 Posted August 15, 2013 Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 I don't think selling a t-shirt is the Kiss business, especially when it's not the primary revenue stream by choice. It's more of a necessity in this age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mstreck Posted August 15, 2013 Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 SLScott86 wrote: I don't think selling a t-shirt is the Kiss business, especially when it's not the primary revenue stream by choice. It's more of a necessity in this age. If anything, It's the Beatles business. From what I understand, they had merch out the wazoo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yes. How can I become right AND rich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3shiftgtr Posted August 16, 2013 Members Share Posted August 16, 2013 guido61 wrote: Yes. How can I become right AND rich? I dunno. Good question. Ask Oprah, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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