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I should have been more specific with what I mean by improvement .Everybody felt in this forum the singers biggest problem was pitch.and to a much lesser degree feeling, tone, or phrasing. So if you can't hear the improvement in pitch then you did not take the time to listen to other older videos and compare.The singers biggest problem pitch has improved greatly as you can see by the video's above.

Too much feeling in vocals is not always good I have seen so many singers get carried away with emotion it sounds like they are getting ready to crap their pants and have to let out.a big turd. Crying and yelling and feeling hurt don't make a singer.

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I do think the band sounds better than a year ago. Drummer is more solid and the guitarists are doing a better job of playing together.

 

You are playing the bridge/breakdown section completely wrong. Right chords/wrong rhythm. But that can be chalked up to "arrangement" I suppose. :idk: But I'm going to guess you probably don't even know you're playing it wrong.

 

No, your singer hasn't improved. He still has no sense of melody, timing or delivery. How many more years of playing this gig before he learns the words to a song every other person in America over the age of 50 has had memorized since they were kids? And yet while reading the words he still flubs them in the last chorus?

 

Cheat sheets are ok. Almost all singers use 'em to one degree or another. But don't LOOK or SOUND like you're reading. Have you noticed how you can HEAR when Donald Trump is reading from a TelePrompTer or not? Your guy SOUNDS like he is reading words he does not know. He's actually not good enough to read from an iPad while singing. He would probably be better if he put it away and tried to sing from memory. Force him to do so.

 

And no. His pitch hasn't improved. If I have to A/B two different videos to notice? Then the improvement isn't enough to make a difference.

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I should have been more specific with what I mean by improvement .Everybody felt in this forum the singers biggest problem was pitch.and to a much lesser degree feeling' date=' tone, or phrasing. So if you can't hear the improvement in pitch then you did not take the time to listen to other older videos and compare.The singers biggest problem pitch has improved greatly as you can see by the video's above.

Too much feeling in vocals is not always good I have seen so many singers get carried away with emotion it sounds like they are getting ready to crap their pants and have to let out.a big turd. Crying and yelling and feeling hurt don't make a singer.

 

yeah, huh...look...the guy isn't even freaking singing Taking Care of Business...he is reciting it!

Feeling and feel are not one in the same...but he has neither. There is a melodic cadence to that song, and he doesn't feel it. Don't try to pretend it is his 'interpretation'. In his head, he hears BTO

 

Your drummer is better at holding the beat...he needs to work on those fills.

The guitar player on the right seems to be about as stiff as 2x4 in January in Anchorage, but he almost got the guitar solo memorized; the one on the left is anchored to the stage, like 'glu on da shu, dude'..... They need to interact, walk the stage, show they are INTO THE MUSIC...and neither one is even a solid rhythm player, and the two of them barely synch up.

Your bass player is a little too 'showy', but toning him down will be easier than getting a spark with the guitar players...

 

Look, as long as you guys are having fun...go for it.

 

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Is this seriously a gigging band that gets paid?

 

And we wonder why the public's perception of "live music" isn't what it once was and why the pay scale is so low.

 

As long as venues exert no form of quality control and are only concerned with finding anyone with a guitar who can fog a mirror for the least amount of $$ possible----then the downward spiral will continue.

 

Actually I'm pretty sure it already hit bottom several years ago. One of the reasons I got out of the bar/nightclub scene long ago.

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Sorry - but the singer just cant sing. He's almost talking and still managing to do it out of key. Like someone doing a speech.

I dont even know what else to say......the band is not good. Very not good.

Much practice is required IMO.

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I think the singers problem is no voice with a touch of stage fright tone. As to the band's credibility' date=' if it keeps 'em on the casino floor...[/quote']

 

 

I did a duo thing in casinos for awhile. I knew it wasn't for me when the manager once told us that we worked too hard to keep people dancing. We were taking them away from the machines and the tables.....

 

Still, I don't think the goal should be to actively DRIVE people away....

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Oh my.

 

Seriously, you could invite 10 people off the dance floor to sing and at least half of them would be better than that lead singer. That doesn't mean he's bad, stupid or evil, It just means he can't sing, at least not yet. His problems with vocals are not something that continued gigging is going to make better because he will just be practicing bad technique and making it harder to break.

 

I have never been a great singer. but I've managed to select material I could at least mostly pull off, At 62, my voice is continuing to change, and not necessarily for the better. My range is diminishing and I'm having more difficulty with certain vowel formations. Solution? I'm getting my big butt back into a voice training class at the local college (they have a great vocal instructor) in order to maximize what I have left as long as I can. I did this when I was 24 and it made a big difference. I wish I'd have been doing it the entire time every few years. It doesn't cost that much and the payoff can be great.

 

The lead singer in a cover band should be the strongest member, because it is he who leads the show, it is he who the crowd sings along with, it is he who is the center of attention. And really, just running a set with a minimum of mistakes is not a show. Based on your videos, the most interesting guy on the stage is the bass player.

 

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IMO, singer should memorize the songs and ditch the stand. If he can't, consider an ipad/stand temporarily. Also, he is a little pitchy, stiff and needs to sing with more feeling. Bass player should move a bit less and everyone else much more. Perhaps adding a female singer would help too. Go out at least once per month and watch other popular bands in your area. Don't copy them, but take a note of their set lists, musicianship, and stage presence. BTW, how much did you guys get paid? Good luck!

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Crying and yelling and feeling hurt don't make a singer.

 

No, but lessons might. Has he actually tried formal training? Invest $50 a week for a year in lessons and do whatever homework the teacher recommends. You will have a tremendously improved singer.

 

Ditto the guitar playing. Don't be too proud to get professional help. Having someone guide you down the path will save you a lot of time. It's not like you're 16 anymore and play 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.

 

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