Members grrrunge Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I discovered the other day, that i'm absolutely in love with the sound of my studio pre and my sp77 driven in parallel. That made me think about constructing a rig where i can run my pre's in parallel and switch them in and out of the signal chain. Once i finish my rig, i'll have 5 or 6 pre's, some sort of switching system for those, the g-system, a TC-2290, a 50/50 and probably a 2502 too, to let me do a w/d/w setup (for nice delays all over the place:D). I use a lot of different amp tones live, but not many effects apart from compressor, delay and reverb. That's why i like the idea about the many different preamps in parallel. It seems to fatten things up quite a bit... Anyways - if you were me, would you try to construct such a rig? if so, how? and if not - why?Are there any crucial drawbacks that i should be aware of concerning running pre's in parallel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyGy Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Do your preamps have a parallel effects loop?? If so you can plug into both amps with a Y cable, adn plug the output of one preamp into the FX return of the other, and use the FX mix to combinte them. That is what I am thinking about doing if I buy a VHT head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 I do this with my soundsculpture switchblade GL. For the rig you plan on building, I strongly suggest purchasing one. I'd ditch the g-system though and get a better midi controller like the FX1. I had a g-system and found that having a A/D/A converter in front of some amps created tone suckage. Since you plan on running so many amps, I'd say trade it in for a g-force or something (I chose to replace mine with an axe-fx ultra). -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grrrunge Posted May 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 I'd ditch the g-system though and get a better midi controller like the FX1. I had a g-system and found that having a A/D/A converter in front of some amps created tone suckage. Since you plan on running so many amps, I'd say trade it in for a g-force or something (I chose to replace mine with an axe-fx ultra). Only thing is, that i really like the way the g-system works for me live. So i thought that i could just put the two sections of it in two loops as well - before and after the "preamp-matrix". After i got the loop levels, input/output levels etc, configured right, i don't really hear the difference. (and when it's ear-chrushingly loud it doesn't matter much anyway, if there's a little mush left. ) The switchblade looks like a nice solution though. Do you use yours for running multiple preamps at the same time in parallel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grrrunge Posted May 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Do your preamps have a parallel effects loop?? If so you can plug into both amps with a Y cable, adn plug the output of one preamp into the FX return of the other, and use the FX mix to combinte them. That is what I am thinking about doing if I buy a VHT head. That sounds like a static way of setting things up. I'd like the ability to switch all of the pre's in and out of the signal chain. Won't the y-splitter cable solution divide the strength of my guitar signal by two, and only hit the input of the pre's with half power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 I discovered the other day, that i'm absolutely in love with the sound of my studio pre and my sp77 driven in parallel. That made me think about constructing a rig where i can run my pre's in parallel and switch them in and out of the signal chain. Once i finish my rig, i'll have 5 or 6 pre's, some sort of switching system for those, the g-system, a TC-2290, a 50/50 and probably a 2502 too, to let me do a w/d/w setup (for nice delays all over the place:D). I use a lot of different amp tones live, but not many effects apart from compressor, delay and reverb. That's why i like the idea about the many different preamps in parallel. It seems to fatten things up quite a bit... Anyways - if you were me, would you try to construct such a rig? if so, how? and if not - why? Are there any crucial drawbacks that i should be aware of concerning running pre's in parallel? TADA http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Only thing is, that i really like the way the g-system works for me live. So i thought that i could just put the two sections of it in two loops as well - before and after the "preamp-matrix". After i got the loop levels, input/output levels etc, configured right, i don't really hear the difference. (and when it's ear-chrushingly loud it doesn't matter much anyway, if there's a little mush left. ) The switchblade looks like a nice solution though. Do you use yours for running multiple preamps at the same time in parallel? Yes, I use multiple preamps at the same time in parallel. Usually just one preamp (bogner XTC front end) and a few preamps from the Axe-FX and I use the realtime mixing capabilities of the switchblade to blend them together, but I have used it in the studio with 2 other amps at the same time (XTC, Triamp, recto). The other drawback of the g-system is that it lacks a lot of midi control needed to send multiple CC messages to other devices. I loved the style and formfactor of my g-system too, but in the end function outweighed fashion and I upgraded. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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