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  • #31
    lmao

    UP THE IRONS!!!!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Soldano67

      Some people like the sound of a Metal Zone some dont.You have a JMP-1 as your midi preamp primarily cause you like the Pumpkins sound and probably you havent tried better gear or cant afford it.You dont need a JMP-1 to get Billys sound anyways its far from being unique like say in example James Hetfields sound.


      Most of the people that like a Metal Zone haven't been playing too long at all. I was one of those people when i started out.
      I can afford the gear. I just choose the JMP-1 as my preamp. I like the Marshall midrange it provides. Heck, i could sell a couple things and grab a Triaxis or Engl with no problem. I just don't want one. If i did get another preamp i'd still use the JMP-1 along with it.

      I'd like to see anyone get a Corgan (Mellon Collie) sound out of anything! Who else sounds like him? I can't even really nail it with nearly the same rack rig. Don't really care to anymore.

      Why don't you write Jim Marshall a letter and complain to him? I doubt he cares anyways. It does have tubes in it so he can call it whatever he wants. Most people aren't electronics specialists so why would he advertise it like this?:

      The Marshall JMP-1 Solid State/Hybrid/almost Tube Preamp - It may not be an all tube preamp but it has tubes in it used a buffers! Beware: USE THIS UNIT WITH A TUBE AMP ONLY!

      It's all business.
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      • #33
        I always wonder why people give a ****************. I wanna play my amps, not study the Schematics all day long...
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Shask
          I always wonder why people give a ****************. I wanna play my amps, not study the Schematics all day long...


          Yup.
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          • #35
            OK, the Bottom line, do the tubes have a big sound difference? Will they increase the amount of gain available?

            Besides, be happy its got tubes. Ive heard for a few years now the JMP-2 is gonna be a digital modeling preamp with effects, Like Line 6. And they were looking for a DSP Engineer a few months ago, so It all seems to go together...
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Shask
              OK, the Bottom line, do the tubes have a big sound difference? Will they increase the amount of gain available?

              Besides, be happy its got tubes. Ive heard for a few years now the JMP-2 is gonna be a digital modeling preamp with effects, Like Line 6. And they were looking for a DSP Engineer a few months ago, so It all seems to go together...


              I think power tubes really make the most difference. That why i'll never use the JMP-1 with a SS power amp.

              I can't wait to see what the JMP-2 is gonna be like. If it's all digital i doubt i'll buy one but it'll surely be worth a test run.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by stilwel
                I was able to swap the Electro Harmonix tubes out for a set of JJ's ECC83S's today.

                The EH tubes were a huge improvement over the stock ECC83's that came in the JMP-1, but I think the JJ's sound a tad bit better than the EH tubes.

                It's a subtle difference, but the JJ's had a slightly smoother upper-midrange that was nice. And the lows, though good on the EH tubes, aren't quite as muddy sounding with the JJ's.

                The EH tubes are good, JJ's are better.

                This is all my opinion of course. 12AX7's are cheap so buy a set of each and judge for yourself.

                I got my JJ's here: http://www.tubesandmore.com

                Try here as well: http://www.thetubestore.com

                jason


                ooh, very cool.

                you may have noticed my thread entitled Woohoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

                That was due my excitement at having made the impulse purchase of some Mullard reissues! so yay for me.

                I'll let you know how they sound, they of course I can't compare to EH or JJ, and there probably wouldn't be much point in getting them, cos let's face it, if they're as good as the originals, i ain't gonna need too many other valves



                hmm.... that grin just isn't big enough I'm afraid....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BillyCorgan


                  I think power tubes really make the most difference. That why i'll never use the JMP-1 with a SS power amp.

                  I can't wait to see what the JMP-2 is gonna be like. If it's all digital i doubt i'll buy one but it'll surely be worth a test run.

                  I never found power tubes made that much of a difference, Unless you are using some volume.

                  What abotu the Gain levels? That was one problem I always had with the JMP-1, Its like the gain at 20 is right at the edge. Need more Of course, I use hotter pickups then what i can try in a store... but still
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Shask

                    I never found power tubes made that much of a difference, Unless you are using some volume.

                    What abotu the Gain levels? That was one problem I always had with the JMP-1, Its like the gain at 20 is right at the edge. Need more Of course, I use hotter pickups then what i can try in a store... but still


                    I only run mine at 17-18 tops unless i need an over-saturated tone. That's a lot of friggin gain. I don't use it for metal though.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BillyCorgan


                      I only run mine at 17-18 tops unless i need an over-saturated tone. That's a lot of friggin gain. I don't use it for metal though.

                      I play metal I remember in the store, I had it at 20, thinking if it only went to 23
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Shask

                        I play metal I remember in the store, I had it at 20, thinking if it only went to 23


                        Did you play it with a cranked power amp?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BillyCorgan


                          Did you play it with a cranked power amp?

                          No, this was Guitar Store Volume
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Shask

                            No, this was Guitar Store Volume


                            That might've been the problem. On stage i usually had to cut a little gain. When it's not cranked there's a lot missing. (including good tone lol)
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Shask

                              Besides, be happy its got tubes. Ive heard for a few years now the JMP-2 is gonna be a digital modeling preamp with effects, Like Line 6. And they were looking for a DSP Engineer a few months ago, so It all seems to go together...


                              Shask you cant believe how ironic this statement is.The JMP-1 is pretty much a modelling preamp. The tubes it has as I've been trying to explain play a very small role in the sound of the preamp it will be a moot point if they get rid of them in the next version.

                              5 bux says you wouldnt be able to tell the difference and if you did,you would perfer the sound of the JMP-2.

                              The JMP-1 is the only preamp I know which has a website dedicated to the lament of it exsisitence.No its not mine

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BillyCorgan



                                I can't wait to see what the JMP-2 is gonna be like. If it's all digital i doubt i'll buy one but it'll surely be worth a test run.


                                Why would it being digital be a problem? After all the JMP-1 isnt a tube preamp in reality anyways and you like the sound.So why not just go and try it with no prejudice? If you like it buy it and be happy.Right?


                                I perfer the sound of an amp where the tubes make up most if not all the tone clean or dirty.No SS gear has made it past my scrutiny including the JMP-1 and the Rocktron Pirhana.

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