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Mackie 32*8 vs Allen & Heath GL3300

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  • Mackie 32*8 vs Allen & Heath GL3300

    In a previous post I was looking at other options to the Mackie 32*2. After further research, I have narrowed it down to the Mackie vs the Allen & Heath GL3300. What am I going to get from the Allen & Heath for $1500 more? The board is primarily for live sound but would like to record the services from it as well so it needs to have clarity for recording. Finally, are there any other good options in the $3000 to $5000 price range?

    Thanks

    Bob Baker

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    The 32:8 buss is meant mainly for recording. It has recording outs/returns on every channel, "mix b", seperate control room outs, and not many pre aux sends. (only 2 pre, two post total I believe)
    However, if monitors are going to be controlled from a seperate console, the 32:8 would be fine. Good preamps, plenty of EQ, etc. 100mm faders.
    <div class="signaturecontainer">Jared</div>

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    • #3
      Also in the price class: Soundcraft Spirit 8 (live 32ch version)
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      • #4
        GL3300 by far!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by doctormartini
          In a previous post I was looking at other options to the Mackie 32*2. After further research, I have narrowed it down to the Mackie vs the Allen & Heath GL3300. What am I going to get from the Allen & Heath for $1500 more? The board is primarily for live sound but would like to record the services from it as well so it needs to have clarity for recording. Finally, are there any other good options in the $3000 to $5000 price range?

          Thanks

          Bob Baker


          "Mackie vs the Allen & Heath GL3300. What am I going to get from the Allen & Heath for $1500 more?"


          It would be hard to explain, since you have to ask.. but,, for the extra bucks,, you get a REAL mixer.....complete with GOOD sound,, and USEFUL features...... the Mackie?,,, well,, it's just not even in the same class of consoles as the A&H....

          Do check out the SoundCraft too,, they are in that price range... and it is as good or better than the A&H....IF this is a permanent install for a church,, you may want to consider the extra bucks towards a SoundCraft Ghost console... you'll have an exellent console that will always do everything you need it to do....

          if your budget is really tight,, consider a used mixer.. but buy quality...you won't really be saving any money by purchasing a Mackie....

          http://www.hticsproaudio.com/
          <div class="signaturecontainer">Columbia SC, USA<br />
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MoosBros


            buy quality...you won't really be saving any money by purchasing a Mackie....






            <div class="signaturecontainer">Jared</div>

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            • #7
              We have the A&H GL4000 in myh church. Great mixer and it does a great job recording too. I just started hooking up my little sony MD 4 track and man does th A&H make it sound good! We use an SR24x4 in the youth room and a 1402 vlz for feeding am audio mix to the cam corders if it makes you feel any better Mackiod

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              • #8
                Thanks for the advice. If I was to go in the Soundcraft direction, would the Spirit 8 or the Ghost be better for doing live sound with recording capability. I know very little about Soundcraft products.

                Bob Baker

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                • #9
                  yea we use a gl400 as well.... just a though, how much would a sound craft Ghost go for, maybe a used one?
                  <div class="signaturecontainer">Kevin Nemrava -token Canadian</div>

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kevinnemrava
                    yea we use a gl400 as well.... just a though, how much would a sound craft Ghost go for, maybe a used one?



                    I have recently seen a Ghost 24 channel console that was advertised as a showroom demo, with meter bridge and stand, they were asking $4500.00

                    the same place had a Peavey AMR 32x16x2 for $2000.

                    AMR's are highly under-rated mixing consoles... exellent quality for the budget minded...
                    <div class="signaturecontainer">Columbia SC, USA<br />
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                    • #11
                      I have heard nothing but great things about the A&H mixer although I have never used that model. On the other hand here is my opinion of the Mackie 32-8.....

                      I own a Mackie 32-8. This board will never again leave my studio unless I sell it to upgrade. Don't get me wrong I don't believe it is a terrible board. It definitely does it's job. It's got tons of inputs and outputs for easy studio use. It has handled many live jobs for me. But..... I have had numerous banks of channels acting flaky and aux's not working and outputs dying out when this board was on the road. This was due to poor ribbon cable connections. I spent more time taking this thing apart and wondering if was gonna work right than mixing some weeks. As long as it stays stationary it works wonderfully. I don't find the sound quality that bad either. It does the job for me for the time being.

                      Bottom line, I don't really recommend this console for live work although I have done it with good results. It is a nice inexpensive studio board for home recording artist. But again, this is my experience and opinion.....

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                      • #12
                        As far as Soundcraft goes, for a little extra money, the Series TWO would be a better choice than the Spirit 8. I am not sure how the Ghost would compare.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MoosBros


                          if your budget is really tight,, consider a used mixer.. but buy quality...you won't really be saving any money by purchasing a Mackie....

                          http://www.hticsproaudio.com/


                          This is good advice from a user directly from the "real on the road" world.

                          Look on those riders..... we have never seen a mackie on it.
                          Look on a concert........ we have never seen a mackie FOH there.

                          Look on the repair tables: we have seen MANY mackie's there !!

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                          • #14
                            Mackie offers good quality and features for the money IMHO. I started with a Mackie 808M powered mixer which has the same mic preamps as the VLZ line. I still have this mixer and use it for monitors; however, my main mixer is an Allen & Heath MixWiz WZ16DX2.

                            From direct comparison I can tell you that the difference in tonal quality between the two was VERY noticable.

                            I don't want you to think that the Mackie is junk becuase it isn't. I had better tone with that little mixer than many bands with full rigs that I had heard, but the A&H isn't in the same catagory as Mackie.

                            I paid 1K for my MixWiz new. The used ones were going for $800-900 on ebay. This is a testiment to just how good they are. They retain their value quite well.

                            Soundcraft is reputed to be at or above A&H in sound quality. I have priced their equipment and it is even higher than A&H.
                            With Greater Knowledge Comes Greater Understanding

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                            • #15
                              okay first off mackie has 2 differant 32*8 .. the recordding one and SR32-8 the live one... they are very different... the recording one is okay for recording.. DON't use it for live.. not enough aux sends.

                              we use the GL4000 works well. butyou should also look at the ghost ( if it is installed.. I don't think this would travel well) as well as the other soundcraft line. the LIVE mackie..SR32-8 is also worth a look. BUT PLEASE TAKE IT FROM ME BUY ONCE AND BUY THE RIGHT ONE! the church that I often work for has bought 4 mixers wasting over 5-6000$ .. all becasue they coun't bite the bullet in the first place.

                              cheers. and might I suggest that you contact other churchs inthe area .. see what they use and how well it is working for them.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer">Kevin Nemrava -token Canadian</div>

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