Members PowerTool Posted November 19, 2003 Members Share Posted November 19, 2003 I get together with my buddies from time to time for some livingroom music. We play country, folk, blues etc. The instrumentation is acoustic guitars, fiddle, light electric, pedal steel etc. All high caliber players that can play with good balance. The only problem is that the vocals are getting strained and occasionally lost when things build a bit. I am looking for a small, high quality PA to help us out. Something like a couple of high quality powered speakers and an 8-16 channel mixer with reverb. I already have good mikes (Neuman KMS 505, AKG 535, Shure SM81, 57 etc.) so all we need is some good sound equipment. Any recommendations? Oh yeah, something light as possible too. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 19, 2003 Members Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by PowerTool I get together with my buddies from time to time for some livingroom music. We play country, folk, blues etc. The instrumentation is acoustic guitars, fiddle, light electric, pedal steel etc. All high caliber players that can play with good balance. The only problem is that the vocals are getting strained and occasionally lost when things build a bit. I am looking for a small, high quality PA to help us out. Something like a couple of high quality powered speakers and an 8-16 channel mixer with reverb. I already have good mikes (Neuman KMS 505, AKG 535, Shure SM81, 57 etc.) so all we need is some good sound equipment.Any recommendations? Oh yeah, something light as possible too.Thanks Is this just for your own enjoyment,or for gigging? If it is just for getting together for your own enjoyment,I'd get monitor wedges for your speakers.And then probably a quality powered mixer. Peavey makes some really good models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PowerTool Posted November 19, 2003 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by tlbonehead Is this just for your own enjoyment,or for gigging? Our own enjoyment. As I mentioned we play in the livingroom. Very fun, no pressure stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 I have to second the Fender Passport recommendation, and I'd go with the new Passport Deluxe; it has Bose speakers that are said to be a definite improvement over the standard Passports by everyone I know who's heard them. I've even heard an electric blues trio using a Passport in a small club for vocals, and it handled the job just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 Originally posted by DaBender I have to second the Fender Passport recommendation, and I'd go with the new Passport Deluxe; it has Bose speakers that are said to be a definite improvement over the standard Passports by everyone I know who's heard them. I've even heard an electric blues trio using a Passport in a small club for vocals, and it handled the job just fine. Why does that sound unlikely. I've seen a passport fail to amplify a classroom effectively. Get a peavey powered head and a couple of speakers or something - anything's better than a passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 Why does that sound unlikely.I've seen a passport fail to amplify a classroom effectively.Get a peavey powered head and a couple of speakers or something - anything's better than a passport I don't care how it sounds - it's true. As I said, it was a small club, perhaps not much bigger than a typical classroom. I'm talking about the Passport 250, maybe you're referring to the 150? FWIW, the guitarist was playing through a Fender RI Bassman, obviously not cranked way up, but the sound was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 Originally posted by DaBender I have to second the Fender Passport recommendation, and I'd go with the new Passport Deluxe; it has Bose speakers that are said to be a definite improvement over the standard Passports by everyone I know who's heard them. I've even heard an electric blues trio using a Passport in a small club for vocals, and it handled the job just fine. I would have to disagree. I tried the 250 Deluxe once to use just as an onstage acoustic guitar amp,and it was very disappointing. A small 200-400 watt powered mixer and a decent pair of 12" cabs or wedges has far more output and a lot better tone,IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundMan Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 We make a passport type thing. Our's is called the Escort.Escort We use one for our quarterly engineering picnic, outside. We only put vocals through it, and it does fine. These guys are playing XXX's and 5150's, there's no shortage of big guitar amps around here. Of course, they aren't cranked to "11". Our neighbors wouldn't appreciate that. SoundMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 Originally posted by SoundMan We make a passport type thing. Our's is called the Escort.Escort We use one for our quarterly engineering picnic, outside. We only put vocals through it, and it does fine. These guys are playing XXX's and 5150's, there's no shortage of big guitar amps around here. Of course, they aren't cranked to "11". Our neighbors wouldn't appreciate that.SoundMan Personally,I'd go with a 684 or 696 and a pair of decent 10" or 12" wedges. Those little Peavey powered heads are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members groove.77 Posted November 20, 2003 Members Share Posted November 20, 2003 I'd get a Behringer powered mixer. They're just fine for the money and put out 180w at 8 ohms. I've used mine since May or June with no problems whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted November 21, 2003 Members Share Posted November 21, 2003 Originally posted by tlbonehead I would have to disagree. I tried the 250 Deluxe once to use just as an onstage acoustic guitar amp,and it was very disappointing. A small 200-400 watt powered mixer and a decent pair of 12" cabs or wedges has far more output and a lot better tone,IMO. The passport I've used was a 250 'donated' to my tafe (college) music course. It has been used to demonstrate basic PA's to the music business courses - and by our sound production lecturer to show just how bad a PA can be. The rehearsal rooms use Peavey 200 watt (I think) powered mixers and molded 12" speakers and they do a far superior job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarnut1085 Posted November 22, 2003 Members Share Posted November 22, 2003 i played on a fender pasport (250) for 6 months with 2 acoustic guitars and 2 vocals and sometimes bass in a small club (50 to 75 people for 6 months and it was great. if i were to buy one i would find a used one, they cost too much new IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JacoMon Posted November 23, 2003 Members Share Posted November 23, 2003 I'll second the JBL EON G2 speakers. I recently got a new Yamaha 16 Ch board for only a couple hundred (they also make one with built in effects).That combination sounds nice, isn't ocerly expensive and is quite flexable.The EON's will work sitting, on a stand OR will tilt back to be a wedge monitor.You can get 10", 15" or Subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3NoteDave Posted November 25, 2003 Members Share Posted November 25, 2003 I have the Passport PD250 and while I'll agree that it sounds very good, the Bose drivers have blown twice. The first time was after playing the system admittedly very loud for a couple of hours. One driver(of a pair) on each side blew. I had to wait 8 weeks for a replacement. Knowing that the drivers were delicate I used it for about 6 hours outdoors but not that loud and they blew again. The unit has been in the shop for over two months waiting for replacements. Granted there is a 3 year warranty but this is ridiculous. My needs are very casual but if I were doing this for money or prestige I would never rely on it. I have the Eon 2 in both 10 and 15 inch varieties. The 10's are a little harsh but the 15's haven't let me down. I've cranked those babies many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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