Members chick korea Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 that i can download and demo it.. I m kind of new here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 The best program to do what with live music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 17, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 a program that will help get the best mix live..... llike getting the vocals just right.. and key and the p.a i remeber installing a program like that but didnt use it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B. Adams Posted March 17, 2004 Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 Are you talking about mixing a show completely on your computer? I would say that probably, no matter what software you find, you are going to be too limited in your hardware. Too limited to be useful anyway. And I'm talking about things like preamps as well as just general inputs and outputs. You'd still need to carry around a (small) rack of digital preamps and stuff, which will take up much of the space you'd be trying to save by using a computer. Or are you talking about something more along the lines of Smaart? Can you provide us with more details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted March 17, 2004 Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 Windows Media Player. Almost totally crash-proof, unlike other music software, unless you're got a backup system. Convert your music to SMF's, MP3's, WAV's, etc, and have it play it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 18, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 well insted ogof you mixing the live vocals bass , etc... the computer tells you what is the best.. tweak or settingfor the vocal or keys or etc..... i have seen it .. a program like that..... but a was disconected from the music for 2 years and i m back and really want to know that stuff.. becuase i really need it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted March 18, 2004 Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea well insted ogof you mixing the live vocals bass , etc...the computer tells you what is the best.. tweak or settingfor the vocal or keys or etc.....i have seen it .. a program like that..... but a was disconected from the music for 2 years and i m back and really want to know that stuff.. becuase i really need it... That's one heck of a computer program. I'm gonna guess that it didn't really do what you think it did. What you're asking for is virtually impossible to do. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 19, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2004 O OOOOOhhhh FETCH....!!!!!!!!!! REALLY... well its like having a virtual sound engenier.... is there nothing close to that are you really shure ... i even hear it come from one concert engenier..... he said that there is a problem with this hall but the computer has help us analize how to beeter mix it???? mmm..... fetch mmm soooo nothing close are you shure?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted March 19, 2004 Members Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea O OOOOOhhhh FETCH....!!!!!!!!!! REALLY...well its like having a virtual sound engenier....is there nothing close to that are you really shure ...i even hear it come from one concert engenier.....he said that there is a problem with this hall but the computer has help us analize how to beeter mix it????mmm..... fetch mmm soooo nothing close are you shure?? It was probably some sort of spectral analysis software that uses white/pink noise and reference mics to figure out the tonal qualities of the room (i.e. reverberations and modes) so they can get a more consistent mix from the system. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 20, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 20, 2004 really the program had like the bass drum sample so you could mix it and stuff and etc... soo whats th3e closest program to that ....??? that you know of.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 22, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 any comments guys .. any program that will help with live mixing i m new to this thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted March 22, 2004 Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 Whatever it is I'd say it's beyond your current level for usefulness. I wouldn't bother until you actually need something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Parallex Posted March 22, 2004 Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea O OOOOOhhhh FETCH....!!!!!!!!!! REALLY...well its like having a virtual sound engenier....is there nothing close to that are you really shure ...i even hear it come from one concert engenier.....he said that there is a problem with this hall but the computer has help us analize how to beeter mix it????mmm..... fetch mmm soooo nothing close are you shure?? it sounds like what you're talking about with that engineer is a real time analyzer (RTA). He'd be doing that to set the eq and find dead spots in the room. and then with the drum samples, you sound like you are talking about any number of programs out there that make drum loops (frooty loops, ACID, etc.) I don't think what you're talking about exists. it sounds like you're mixing a few things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 22, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 well can you .....recommend any program any programcan help even a little... on live mixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 22, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 well can you .....recommend any program any programcan help even a little... on live mixing or anithing that weill help my live sound any program?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted March 22, 2004 Members Share Posted March 22, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea well can you .....recommend any program any programcan help even a little... on live mixing You're not listening and your question doesn't even make a whole lot of sense. Mixers mix. Programs run on computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea well can you .....recommend any program any programcan help even a little... on live mixing or anithing that weill help my live sound any program?? I do have one idea - there's an Open Source program out there called iExperience made by a company called RealLife. The first time you run it, it may not work that well, but the more you use the Practice, Research, and HardWork plugins, the better results you'll get. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 Originally posted by IsildursBane I do have one idea - there's an Open Source program out there called iExperience made by a company called RealLife. The first time you run it, it may not work that well, but the more you use the Practice, Research, and HardWork plugins, the better results you'll get. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members matt emery Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 There is no program like this, and there won't be for a long time. Mixing is not something that is wrong or right. It's a matter of preferance. How does a computer know how loud you want the kick drum to be compared to the guitars? It doesn't. It's always going to be a matter of judgement which = human. (for now at least ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 23, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 I m not lisening becuase im watching...... i think thats the problem wait dont jump to 10.... somebody mention about pinlk noise ((rember i m new to this thing)i come here to learn)) and on the t.v there was a interview with the mix man...and he was saying ,,,,...well this room does not have real good acustics but our computers have help us with the blablabla... and this was a big name concert.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B. Adams Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 Originally posted by chick korea I m not lisening becuase im watching...... i think thats the problem wait dont jump to 10....somebody mention about pinlk noise ((rember i m new to this thing)i come here to learn))and on the t.v there was a interview with the mix man...and he was saying ,,,,...well this room does not have real good acustics but our computers have help us with the blablabla...and this was a big name concert.... They were probably using Smaart or a similar program, or maybe just a Driverack or something. This can tell you a lot about the acoustics of a room, and how your sound is reacting with it, and some things have the potential to adjust a few things for you, like EQ, but it can only do do much. There isn't anything that will mix for you, and it won't fix your mistakes. It can only help you out, and tell you what you're doing (and not doing), but you have to know what it can do for you and what it can't. You can do the same thing with an EQ and a really good ear. Technology just makes things "faster," and more "accurate." But of course those are relative terms. Pink noise is basically a sound containing every frequency, in relative amounts. The frequency curve of Pink noise follows the typical response of the ear, so it is useful for adjusting system response. It is usually played over the PA, then an RTA is used to see what the response is around the room, and you adjust from there. Some people do it by ear. White noise, on the other hand, is all frequencies at even levels. This is not as useful in adjusting system response, because the higher frequencies are at much higher relative volumes than lower frequencies, which seem to be at lower levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 Originally posted by B. Adams White noise, on the other hand, is all frequencies at even levels. This is not as useful in adjusting system response, because the higher frequencies are at much higher relative volumes than lower frequencies, which seem to be at lower levels. One correction: High and low frequencies will appear to be at a lower volume than mid-range frequencies. -Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B. Adams Posted March 23, 2004 Members Share Posted March 23, 2004 Yeah, sorry I'm not getting much sleep lately. The midrange does seem loud, but the highs are a little louder too. You don't get any low range to balance it out. But either way it sounds really harsh. Pink noise is much easier to listen to, IMO. I don't know if Bink will like me linking to his page, but he's got a nice Test CD with all this stuff on it. That page is here. If you want just pink noise, it's track 58 (but it's pretty big), and white noise is track 56. I use his CD all the time, but it's a huge file to download, so look at the documentation and find out if you actually need it before you go downloading things. That's a lot of bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chick korea Posted March 25, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2004 THANX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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