Members NoSurrender Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Finally got a PA my band will use for practice. It is used but in excellent working condition. Cost me $500. Studiomaster Diamond 8-2 mixerAlesys Microverb-IIIAlesys EQCrown Power Base - 1 ampall mounted on a rack, and wired; also got speaker wires. Now, have to choose speakers... NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fossil Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Power amp specs and your budget? For vocals only at practice? If more than vocals what instrument(s) through PA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by fossil Power amp specs and your budget? For vocals only at practice? If more than vocals what instrument(s) through PA? Acoustic guitar, 2 vocals, keyboards, electronic drums, and maybe bass will go through the PA. I think 2x200watt that this amp produces is enough for now. NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by NoSurrender Acoustic guitar, 2 vocals, keyboards, electronic drums, and maybe bass will go through the PA. I think 2x200watt that this amp produces is enough for now.NS At what impedance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by NoSurrender Acoustic guitar, 2 vocals, keyboards, electronic drums, and maybe bass will go through the PA. I think 2x200watt that this amp produces is enough for now.NS At what impedance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by tlbonehead At what impedance? Stereo mode (both channels driven):240 watts into 4 ohms.200 watts into 8 ohms. Bridge-Mono mode:455 watts into 8 ohms.395 watts into 16 ohms. Parallel-Mono mode:455 watts into 2 ohms.400 watts into 4 ohms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fossil Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by fossil Budget? $500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 No Surrender, I see you're in the bay area. How about these? If they're in decent shape, it's a pretty god deal. http://www.craigslist.org/eby/msg/26461232.html --Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 That's a great price, go get them before someone else does. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by soul-x No Surrender, I see you're in the bay area. How about these?If they're in decent shape, it's a pretty god deal.http://www.craigslist.org/eby/msg/26461232.html--Sean Thanks a lot, Sean!!! NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fossil Posted March 16, 2004 Members Share Posted March 16, 2004 If those EV's dont work out you might also consider the Yamaha S115IV's that are on closeout for $229ish each. I would suggest the SM115IV model as they can be used as either monitor or FOH and offer more flexibility as well as being able to be used if your system grows. Looks like your budget will allow for a pair of entry level 15" speakers. Normally with Electronic Drums and Bass going through the PA you would ideally use subs. As you said though this is just for practice. Keep the levels reasonable and it should be good enough for practice. Dont try to squeeze every last drop of volume or get a lot of bass out of the system. Your just not going to get a lot of bass response from a pair of entry level 15" speakers. If you could amplify the drums, Bass and guitar on their own that would be the best choice. Then i would say go for a pair of 12" monitors. Someone has also suggested the (I think) American Audio 15" speakers, cant remember the model number. Try a search for "Yamaha club" or "Yamaha S115IV" and you should come up with a decent list of 1x15" speakers in your price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 17, 2004 Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by fossil If those EV's dont work out you might also consider the Yamaha S115IV's that are on closeout for $229ish each. I would suggest the SM115IV model as they can be used as either monitor or FOH and offer more flexibility as well as being able to be used if your system grows. Looks like your budget will allow for a pair of entry level 15" speakers. Normally with Electronic Drums and Bass going through the PA you would ideally use subs. As you said though this is just for practice. Keep the levels reasonable and it should be good enough for practice. Dont try to squeeze every last drop of volume or get a lot of bass out of the system. Your just not going to get a lot of bass response from a pair of entry level 15" speakers. If you could amplify the drums, Bass and guitar on their own that would be the best choice. Then i would say go for a pair of 12" monitors.Someone has also suggested the (I think) American Audio 15" speakers, cant remember the model number. Try a search for "Yamaha club" or "Yamaha S115IV" and you should come up with a decent list of 1x15" speakers in your price range. APX152 is the American Audio model number. Very decent speakers for under $200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 17, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by fossil If those EV's dont work out you might also consider the Yamaha S115IV's that are on closeout for $229ish each. Looks like your budget will allow for a pair of entry level 15" speakers. Normally with Electronic Drums and Bass going through the PA you would ideally use subs. Someone has also suggested the (I think) American Audio 15" speakers, cant remember the model number. Thanks for your advise! Will check these. I don't think I'll need a lot of bass for the garage BTW, when I buy used speakers, what are the signs of a weak/abused speaker? Should I look for the cracks in the speaker cones, or specific sounds that would indicate that the voice coil or other parts are bad? NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted March 17, 2004 Members Share Posted March 17, 2004 BTW, when I buy used speakers, what are the signs of a weak/abused speaker? Should I look for the cracks in the speaker cones, or specific sounds that would indicate that the voice coil or other parts are bad? Someone else may have a more scientific answer, but all I can really do is state the the obvious: Use your eyes, ears, and brain. Look at them -- As you mentioned, cracks or tears in speaker cones and surrounds are on obvious no-no's. Are the cabinets beat to hell? If so, they've seen a lot of heavy use, or have a careless owner. Listen to them -- Do they sound good with a piece of music you are familiar with? Are they loud enough? Is there any audible distortion (a swept sine wave can help here). Voice coil rub? Talk to the seller. -- Find out if they driven hard their whole lives, or just taken out by granny on Sundays. Have they been altered in any way? Do you know or trust him/her? Do some research -- Are speaker recone kits available? Replacement compression diaphragms? Basically, just do all the same things you, an intelligent buyer, would do for any major purchase of used merchandise. Is this for those EVs? --Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 18, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by soul-x Is this for those EVs?--Sean Yep, that's for EVs. How much the re-coning would run for the 15", approximately? I saw few different 15" in the specs, are these more or less the same? NS Peaveys:Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 18, 2004 Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 Ev's recones can vary from about $85.00 to $140.00 depending on the series of driver used and the size. The EVX is the most expensive, the EVM the least, with the DL somewhere in between. These are for recones using factory parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Redbassman Posted March 18, 2004 Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 I use the Studiomaster Diamond 16x2 on a bi-weekly basis. Good, reliable board. My only complaint is all post fader auxs and no sweepable mids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 18, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by agedhorse Ev's recones can vary from about $85.00 to $140.00 depending on the series of driver used and the size. The EVX is the most expensive, the EVM the least, with the DL somewhere in between. These are for recones using factory parts. That's not too bad. NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 18, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by Redbassman I use the Studiomaster Diamond 16x2 on a bi-weekly basis. Good, reliable board. My only complaint is all post fader auxs and no sweepable mids It weights a ton, though NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoSurrender Posted March 25, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2004 Originally posted by soul-x No Surrender, I see you're in the bay area. How about these?If they're in decent shape, it's a pretty god deal.http://www.craigslist.org/eby/msg/26461232.html--Sean Hey, Sean. I went to Oakland today (took a 2 hour lunch) and got these EVs. They sound awesome- very clear sound and lots of power; enough bass, good clear mids and highs. Good clean speakers. Hope they're gonna last... Thanks for posting this link!NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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