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  • #2
    These people (American Musical Supply Site Reviews) had a much different experience:

    "Do you run sound? - buy these!"


    alex From weslaco, tx
    Submitted 4/28/2004 1:42:48 AM


    Quality
    Features
    Ease Of Use
    Value
    Sound
    Overall

    OVERALL:
    If you run sound. This is the mic you can afford to scarfice and still have excellent voice, instrument reproduction. I have not found a better sounding mic for the value. All Samson mics have good sound, like the headphones they make too.

    QUALITY:
    These mics are well made. I have used them night after night with no problems. Except for once when a hardcore band I was running sound for, threw the mic on the floor super hard. No problem. I dont mind at this price. Easily replaced. Not as heavy duty as the Shure mics, but well worth the investment.

    FEATURES:
    On and off switch. Standard like any other mic.

    EASE OF USE:
    No hard thing to set up.

    VALUE:
    Excellent value. YOu will not find a better preforming mic for the price. Will blow away other mics that sell for a higher price.

    SOUND:
    THe standard comparison is the Shure 57 and 58. Let me tell, you that it has a hella lot more of an output than these two mics mention. Blows them away in clarity, crisp, and sweet sounding.

    STYLE:
    Heavy Metal

    MUSIC EXPERIENCE:
    20 yrs musician. 10 years in sound


    How They Use It: On weekend gigs


    Experience With It: Had it more than 6 months




    "Can't beat the price"


    mike From long island NY
    Submitted 9/22/2003 129:54 PM


    Quality
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    Ease Of Use
    Value
    Sound
    Overall

    I bought these mics to use for rehersal, I have SM58s and PG58s for our live shows. Within a week I replaced all the PG58's with R21s. They sound exactly the same as the SM58s, they just dont seem as durable....but remember that you get 3 R21s for half the price of 1 SM58. and how often do you drop, kick, trample or hammer a nail in with your mic???? is durability worth 6x the price?


    How They Use It: On weekend gigs


    Experience With It: Had it 1-6 months




    "Great Mic!"


    Groovielou From Chino Hills CA
    Submitted 6/14/2003 7:18:50 PM


    Quality
    Features
    Ease Of Use
    Value
    Sound
    Overall

    Have had these mic's for about 2 weeks now. After two all night Karaoke gigs, they are holing up just fine!


    How They Use It: I depend on it for my job


    Experience With It: I got it 1-4 weeks ago




    "Absolutely awesome deal, bright sound"


    Julian Vazquez From Miami, FL
    Submitted 12/3/2002 11:56:39 AM


    Quality
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    Sound
    Overall

    I was singing background(1 of 3) for a recording with an R&B Group. One of the background singers brought in Shure SM58's which we initially started using. We ended up not sounding so nice on the 58's and tried this group of mics. Not only did we not have to use our levels so high, but we had much more clarity and intonation smoked the 58's. I swear by the Beta 58 since it's what I use for live solo work, but this group of 3 mics is pretty for the price. I'm glad I bought it. Try the Audix OM5 as well!


    How They Use It: I depend on it for my job


    Experience With It: Had it 1-6 months

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    • #3
      Yes. Yes, they did.

      And....

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      • #4
        Is McDonalds any good? Depends how hungry you are.

        Compared to something that you paid $200 for you can expect probably less gain before feedback, less hum and RF rejection, more mechanical noise when you hold it and less reliability. How much do you need? You'll never complain if you bought too good. Mics and speakers are the weakest link in systems (next to happy face curves on EQs!)

        That being said ... a Big Mac tastes good every once in awhile
        Don Boomer

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Audiopile


          I'm glad someone finally straightend me out on the fact that a live performance vocal mics should have an on/off switch


          I'll bet your cheesy SM58 don't have 1/4" or 1/8" plugs either ... shame on you.

          But I don't get what's wrong with Boone's Farm??
          Don Boomer

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          • #6
            Hey I've got a couple mics laying around with switches on them too. I should start using them again.

            Gee, I don't think the reviews on a big box chain store web site would be biased would you? I wonder if the Nady SP-1 is on there? Actually I saw an HC review for the SP-1 and it was... enlightning so to speak. Not for the product, for the users.

            I like cheezy mics like those, my nady (7.99 on clearance @ musicians fiend) has been covered in little rubber feet, painted with nail polish and makes a cool talk back mic. The other one that came with it (don't ask) died upon arrival. I just can't send back a 8 dollar mic for what postage would be.

            50 bucks for 3. What a bargain. I s'pose you could cut out a picture of a mic in a magazine for cheaper. No feedback problems there.
            www.rock-bot.com
            Live-Band-Karaoke

            bassist and sound reinforcement

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            • #7
              Why would the dealer bias the reviews? If the mics got bad reviews then they would just drop the line.

              I find the reviews a lot more credible than phile's.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by proax
                Why would the dealer bias the reviews? If the mics got bad reviews then they would just drop the line.

                I find the reviews a lot more credible than phile's.


                Do a search for every online retailer and look at any review. Take notice of how many negative reviews there are.

                Why would they say buy this sucky product? You can't make money that way. And that is all this is about.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by proax
                  Why would the dealer bias the reviews? If the mics got bad reviews then they would just drop the line.

                  I find the reviews a lot more credible than phile's.


                  Really? Did you happen to notice not one reviewer has had the mic more than 6 months?

                  There is no such thing as a 'review' in a product catalog. It's all advertising. Do you really suppose AMS or Musician's Friend would post a review that said, "well, it's a mediocre product, but at least it didn't set my house on fire"? In their catalog.

                  Honestly, I can't even believe I'd have to explain any of this. Did you get that check from those nice gentlemen in Uganda yet?
                  .....

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                  • #10
                    So then, Mark, are you implying, that, like, you mean, ummm, that you really can't get something for nothing????? Are you sure of this? I mean, think of the implications, man.
                    .....

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                    • #11
                      I've bought the 3-pack and have been pleasantly surprised with the quality of the R21. While I like the picture of the dozen or so "dead" Q-mics, bear in mind that these are not the same mic as the R21. I'm not disputing that his mics may, in fact, be crap, only that I haven't had such bad luck with mine.

                      Are the R21s in the same league as the SM58? No, but for most live sound applications they are perfectly adequate. We use them for our backup singers and horns and they perform as well as many of the more expensive mics we've used in the past. Would I use them for recording? Probably not for vocals, but for amps or drums they might be fine. They are reasonably durable and come in a nice case; not bad for $50. If you aren't super rough with your equipment on the road, you shouldn't have any problems with these mics.

                      These mics aren't going to run Shure out of business, but for the money, they aren't a bad deal. I've had mine for a few years and haven't had any of them crap out on me. Maybe the mic gods are on my side or something; I don't know. I just know that we've used the heck out of ours with no problems and they have performed to our expectations every time. I'm even thinking of getting three more, just to have as spares.

                      You usually get what you pay for, but sometimes you get more for your money. Unless you are super-finicky about your equipment, these should do fine.
                      If the reason for climbing Mt Everest is that it's hard to do, why does everyone go up on the easy side?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nighthawkdude
                        I've bought the 3-pack and have been pleasantly surprised with the quality of the R21. While I like the picture of the dozen or so "dead" Q-mics, bear in mind that these are not the same mic as the R21. I'm not disputing that his mics may, in fact, be crap, only that I haven't had such bad luck with mine.

                        Are the R21s in the same league as the SM58? No, but for most live sound applications they are perfectly adequate. We use them for our backup singers and horns and they perform as well as many of the more expensive mics we've used in the past. Would I use them for recording? Probably not for vocals, but for amps or drums they might be fine. They are reasonably durable and come in a nice case; not bad for $50. If you aren't super rough with your equipment on the road, you shouldn't have any problems with these mics.

                        These mics aren't going to run Shure out of business, but for the money, they aren't a bad deal. I've had mine for a few years and haven't had any of them crap out on me. Maybe the mic gods are on my side or something; I don't know. I just know that we've used the heck out of ours with no problems and they have performed to our expectations every time. I'm even thinking of getting three more, just to have as spares.

                        You usually get what you pay for, but sometimes you get more for your money. Unless you are super-finicky about your equipment, these should do fine.


                        Thank you for your knowledgeable and informative post about the mic that I actually asked about.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craigv


                          Really? Did you happen to notice not one reviewer has had the mic more than 6 months?

                          There is no such thing as a 'review' in a product catalog. It's all advertising. Do you really suppose AMS or Musician's Friend would post a review that said, "well, it's a mediocre product, but at least it didn't set my house on fire"? In their catalog.

                          Honestly, I can't even believe I'd have to explain any of this. Did you get that check from those nice gentlemen in Uganda yet?


                          Ok, if you look at a lot of the user reviews on AMS, you'll see that they do indeed post the bad reviews along with the good ones... Take these ones for instance:
                          http://www.americanmusical.com/itemreviews--i-BEH-ACX1000.html

                          http://www.americanmusical.com/itemreviews--i-NAD-MC12.html

                          http://www.americanmusical.com/itemreviews--i-NAD-PEM500.html

                          I suspect that the number of positive reviews has more to do with the reviewers than the websites. When you get a new piece of gear, its the greatest new thing on the planet because you want it to be... until the newness wears off (unless its DOA or breaks soon after you get it) so if they post a review right ater they get it, chances are they are going to be more positive than negative.
                          Mike

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                          • #14
                            I also suspect that pride plays a role, no one like to believe that they made a stupid choice...
                            Mike

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by proax


                              Thank you for your knowledgeable and informative post about the mic that I actually asked about.


                              Perhaps you misunderstand. You asked for opinions on a 3/$50 mic in a forum that has a lot of professionals. They don't need to have seen this specific mic to know that you won't get much for $16.66. We've all cut corners and wasted money on false economies, and rather than let you do the same, we're trying to help you not make the same mistakes, or at least understand what you're looking at.
                              .....

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