Members taylor840 Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Is this Behringer's version of Opera's speakers? http://www.behringer.com/B215A/index.cfm?lang=ENG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by taylor840 Is this Behringer's version of Opera's speakers?http://www.behringer.com/B215A/index.cfm?lang=ENG It says 450 watts but is that ONE amp with a passive crossover in the speaker or is that the total for 2 amps biamping the speaker? At around $300 U.S. list the 12 inch might make a good low level monitor but they don't state if it can be placed on its side. http://www.behringer.com/B212A/index.cfm?lang=ENG Dookietwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Dookietwo At around $300 U.S. list the 12 inch might make a good low level monitor but they don't state if it can be placed on its side. They do:"Versatile trapezoidal enclosure design allows different positioning: stand mounting with 35-mm pole socket or side tilt positioning for use as a floor monitor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members taylor840 Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Don't they look EXACTLY like the db technologies Opera speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 11, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by taylor840 Don't they look EXACTLY like the db technologies Opera speakers? Imagine my surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteelyD2 Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Craigv Imagine my surprise. That's some coincidence, huh? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kevinnem Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Craig - I don't understand, ... do you work for db? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by kevinnem Craig - I don't understand, ... do you work for db? I believe he means Behringer's modus operandi is copying existing products. You can offer lower price points if you let others do your R&D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kennykeys Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 Originally posted by Dookietwo .....but they don't state if it can be placed on its side. That was a problem with a Mackie product, not dB Technologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve_B Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 A reflex 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 Originally posted by Steve_B A reflex 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 15, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 Originally posted by Steve_B A reflex 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve_B Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 15, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 Those pics make my point, Steve. None look as incredibly similar to either each other or to dB's offering as Behringer's. Most companies go out of their way to develop a unique and identifiable 'family' appearance for their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve_B Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Sorry for the delay in replying but I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted April 23, 2007 Members Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well i bought me a pair ( the Behringers) and for someone who works on a VERY reg basis and who also owns some very good powered boxes (Quest QSA 3OO) the Behringers are VERY good for the $$$$. I wanted some cheap lightweight powered monitors and while i was not expecting greatness from the behringers i thought that they would suffice.....??? Well i was floored, they sound and preform exceptionally well, much, much better than i had anticipated. I have owned Behringer gear in the past and had my share of mishaps with it but when there was a prob it was ALWAYS either replaced for me or repaired under warranty. Now i know most will prolly flame me for for it but in this day and age with what we muso's make outa gigging for a living, saving bucks is on the top of my priority list and at $349.00 Australian for these , "with a 2 year warranty" i figure ya can't go wrong. Even if the damn thing catches on fire after 2 years you could go buy another and prolly still be out front with what you would pay for a single big brand name. I guess in the end it all comes down to "what works for you" ..That being said i don't think i would use these boxes for mains (although you could) but for a VERY GOOD, compact light powered monitor they do the job extremely well. Jess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzdrum Posted April 23, 2007 Members Share Posted April 23, 2007 behringers looks like the closest "ripoff" to the db cab, but still different enough to not confuse the two. I recently purchased a B212a cab myself and was also surprised at it's performance.....$161 on b-stock shipped for free. Light, versatile, and great as a vocal monitor. I second the customer support experience as well. Only good things to say. One day when I can afford eaw's maybe I'll "move up" -Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Erik-RMCAudio Posted April 27, 2007 Members Share Posted April 27, 2007 I think DB should be flattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbutler1982 Posted April 27, 2007 Members Share Posted April 27, 2007 I dont see any problem with the copying Behringer does. It gives a low-cost alternative to those who cant afford the original. If the original maker doesnt protect his intellectual property (and, fine, maybe he cant - but same result) properly, then Behringer should be able to provide competition. If you want to argue that the intellectual property laws are flawed, then fine, but it isnt Behringer's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted April 27, 2007 Members Share Posted April 27, 2007 I dont see any problem with the copying Behringer does. It gives a low-cost alternative to those who cant afford the original. If the original maker doesnt protect his intellectual property (and, fine, maybe he cant - but same result) properly, then Behringer should be able to provide competition. If you want to argue that the intellectual property laws are flawed, then fine, but it isnt Behringer's fault. So you are sayying there is no such thing as morality? Right and wrong is only based on laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jwlussow Posted April 27, 2007 Members Share Posted April 27, 2007 I can't believe everybody is stealing Behringer's design....what? Did I miss something? Stealing is stealing. I assume that db & the others don't mind since Behringer's copies are crap and people will realize that the "original" version must be pretty good for Behringer to steal the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted April 27, 2007 Members Share Posted April 27, 2007 I dont see any problem with the copying Behringer does. It gives a low-cost alternative to those who cant afford the original. If the original maker doesnt protect his intellectual property (and, fine, maybe he cant - but same result) properly, then Behringer should be able to provide competition. If you want to argue that the intellectual property laws are flawed, then fine, but it isnt Behringer's fault. So if you write an awesome original song and I copy it and sell it, I am just providing competition, right? Do you have any work tapes I can borrow, or do I have to wait till you release them? I am sure I will play and sell them for less, after all I have no time invested in developing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted April 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 I dont see any problem with the copying Behringer does. It gives a low-cost alternative to those who cant afford the original. If the original maker doesnt protect his intellectual property (and, fine, maybe he cant - but same result) properly, then Behringer should be able to provide competition. If you want to argue that the intellectual property laws are flawed, then fine, but it isnt Behringer's fault. You're kidding, right? Why should anyone do their own R&D? Just look in the stores, buy a sample, and copy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted April 28, 2007 Members Share Posted April 28, 2007 Here is another thought, some, if not most, of the best advice comes from a group of engineers that design products for different manufacturers that we are very fortunate to have on this board. Think of at least one reason there is no-one from Behr. on here. Enough of this "competition" and they are out of a job, and music gear will stop developing right where it is. It costs alot of money to design and develop a new product, and the company that pays to do so, has to get their money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted April 28, 2007 Members Share Posted April 28, 2007 And don't use the tired, "it is the only gear I can afford" excuse. My first PA was a set of Koss headphones used as a mic, plugged into the second input of my TNT 100 that I was still using for my bass. It sucked, so I saved and bought a Rat shack mic, plugged into a ampeg flip-top head(wish I still had that) through a pair of Standell 4-12 columns. That sucked too, but it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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